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Watch live on BBC or Sky depending which it is on. 36 32.73%
Watch only BBC live or delayed/highlights. 48 43.64%
Watch only BBC live (live or not bother). 16 14.55%
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Old 27 Oct 2011, 17:54 (Ref:2977809)   #876
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Fortunately I don't have that problem as I live here but it is a shame the BBC have gone with this decision and this has a lot to do with the BBC cutting back because they overspent.
Thats the main excuse, yes. Its abit difficult to believe anyone in all of this when the BBC are saying on record that Bernie forced the deal, and Bernie reckon's he had nothing to do with any of the negotiations. I know Bernie is a lying little bar steward, but someone needs to deliver a genuine answer instead of fobbing fans off and giving them no alternatives other than to pay £48 per race.
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Old 27 Oct 2011, 18:31 (Ref:2977839)   #877
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It is quite possible that all the contradictory on record reporting has been incorrectly reported.
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Old 27 Oct 2011, 18:42 (Ref:2977848)   #878
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Thats the main excuse, yes. Its abit difficult to believe anyone in all of this when the BBC are saying on record that Bernie forced the deal, and Bernie reckon's he had nothing to do with any of the negotiations. I know Bernie is a lying little bar steward, but someone needs to deliver a genuine answer instead of fobbing fans off and giving them no alternatives other than to pay £48 per race.
It's no excuse, they overspent. However it's far more expedient for the BBC to say Bernie forced them. As for Bernie, he may not actually have been there for the negotiations but that doesn't mean his team didn't go in with his remit.
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Old 27 Oct 2011, 18:53 (Ref:2977854)   #879
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It is quite possible that all the contradictory on record reporting has been incorrectly reported.
Which contradicts all of the incorrectly reported contradictory on record reporting.
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The final outcome is that the beeb saved some cash. Which is to its advantage. How it came about is secondary. You may as well question why the Guardian would want to write that report. Let's make that the most important part of the story.

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Old 27 Oct 2011, 19:05 (Ref:2977861)   #881
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Some say that Sky will use the guys on Speed TV (owned by News Corp) to cover the races on Sky.
jimny crickets!! david hobbs and that fat ex benetton mechanic?

hobbs is ancient, boring, not funny and seems to watch the race on a 5 second delay and matchett just likes to remind you of how much time he worked for benetton. They're awful, truly awful.
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W.

The final outcome is that the beeb saved some cash. Which is to its advantage. How it came about is secondary. You may as well question why the Guardian would want to write that report. Let's make that the most important part of the story.
But if the BBC hadn't overspent, they wouldn't have needed to cut back in the first place.
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Old 27 Oct 2011, 19:51 (Ref:2977895)   #883
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Old 27 Oct 2011, 20:00 (Ref:2977899)   #884
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hobbs is ancient, boring, not funny and seems to watch the race on a 5 second delay...


Hobbs is old and crotchety but can be funny. there was a period of time when if there was even a hint of an on track incident his default position was to blame it on Villeneuve...good times!

imo Bob Varsha is very good though.
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Old 28 Oct 2011, 00:01 (Ref:2977980)   #885
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jimny crickets!! david hobbs and that fat ex benetton mechanic?

hobbs is ancient, boring, not funny and seems to watch the race on a 5 second delay and matchett just likes to remind you of how much time he worked for benetton. They're awful, truly awful.
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Old 29 Oct 2011, 08:10 (Ref:2978504)   #886
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brands should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbrands should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridbrands should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I have Sky, ironically got it for Bernievision back in '03 ?, and so where I watch the races or highlights depends solely on where EJ isn't. He's an embarrassment I will be able to avoid.
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I have Sky, ironically got it for Bernievision back in '03 ?, and so where I watch the races or highlights depends solely on where EJ isn't. He's an embarrassment I will be able to avoid.
EJ is brillant in India.
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Old 29 Oct 2011, 08:44 (Ref:2978513)   #888
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EJ used to drive me nuts but he's a valuable edition to the BBC team IMO. Sure he makes some stupid comments but he also asks awkward questions to team principles where other presenter wouldn't venture. Whenever teams have favoured drivers quite blatantly, EJ is there pushing the point much to the embarrassment to those around him and its great viewing. I hope he's there in 2012.
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EJ used to drive me nuts but he's a valuable edition to the BBC team IMO. Sure he makes some stupid comments but he also asks awkward questions to team principles where other presenter wouldn't venture. Whenever teams have favoured drivers quite blatantly, EJ is there pushing the point much to the embarrassment to those around him and its great viewing. I hope he's there in 2012.
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Old 29 Oct 2011, 09:49 (Ref:2978532)   #890
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Well I hope he stays at the BBC. Then at least I can enjoy all 20 races EJ free.
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Well I hope he stays at the BBC. Then at least I can enjoy all 20 races EJ free.
You'd have to be mad to watch all 20 on Sky, 10 I can almost understand but I couldn't sit through all 20!
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You'd have to be mad to watch all 20 on Sky, 10 I can almost understand but I couldn't sit through all 20!
But again, how do you actually know that yet? You are basing that purely on assumption, not actual fact!
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Old 29 Oct 2011, 11:25 (Ref:2978563)   #893
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But again, how do you actually know that yet? You are basing that purely on assumption, not actual fact!
Are you asking me if I can see into the future?
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Are you asking me if I can see into the future?
No, because i already know the answer to that

But it's like me saying that sleeping with Eve Lawrence would be the best sex i could ever have, but until i tried it, how could i actually know for certain
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I did too. They were offering something better and more than was on offer free. It was worth it.

That is a little different to now. ITV had F1 then and it was blessed relief. The F1digital+ coverage they offered was top draw. Now we have BBC, but not live all the time.
Still, rather than set up a tent, but return to my warm home very night, I'm going to roll with it. Let's see...
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No, because i already know the answer to that

But it's like me saying that sleeping with Eve Lawrence would be the best sex i could ever have, but until i tried it, how could i actually know for certain
I have no idea who Eve Lawrence is, but I'll take you word for that. If I get to watch Sky for free on a stream whilst you guys pay £40p/m I'll reconsider my opinions on it.
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At the moment I'm in the first camp, although I'm thinking that when I can watch a race live on the BBC, that's what I shall do, so that's a 50/50 split.

Otherwise I don't think there's much to say until we know definitely who's doing what and for whom.
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I have no idea who Eve Lawrence is, but I'll take you word for that. If I get to watch Sky for free on a stream whilst you guys pay £40p/m I'll reconsider my opinions on it.
I belive she's a porn star, otherwise a live stream sounds like an interim solution.
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I belive she's a porn star, otherwise a live stream sounds like an interim solution.
I learnt that to my peril this morning when I googled her name whilst at work and had a page load of adult links come up. I had to phone the IT department to clear things up, so thanks for that Mr V. Another reason to keep my presence here rather brief.
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