[WTCC] 2014 WTCC speculation, rumours and news

[Tarzaan]

Originally Posted by iceman-1987

what i want to say is that it's already happened at the of 2000/2001 that touring car and touring championship disappeard due to the high costs.

the S2000 was born just with the idea to develop new cars with lower costs.
now all these new changes to the car has increased the cost of the car of 15/20% bringing the budget for one season to 700.000 euro/1 mln of euro!!

i think that in this period was not at all the moment to make all these change specially because the wtcc surived in last years thanks to privaters.

look at how many good drivers we have lost from last to this year: NASH, BASSENG, MCDOWALL, NIYKIAER, D'ASTE and even the asian drivers that i supposed had the bigger budget like OYOUNG and NG left the series.

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[Bramzel]

Originally Posted by iceman-1987

what i want to say is that it's already happened at the of 2000/2001 that touring car and touring championship disappeard due to the high costs.

Yep, but the same thing happened in the 80's and 90's.

the S2000 was born just with the idea to develop new cars with lower costs.
now all these new changes to the car has increased the cost of the car of 15/20% bringing the budget for one season to 700.000 euro/1 mln of euro!!

i think that in this period was not at all the moment to make all these change specially because the wtcc surived in last years thanks to privaters.

That's correct, but the current rule change is also because of the general critique that the cars were too tame to deserve the "World Championship" status. Something I can relate too.

look at how many good drivers we have lost from last to this year: NASH, BASSENG, MCDOWALL, NIYKIAER, D'ASTE and even the asian drivers that i supposed had the bigger budget like OYOUNG and NG left the series.

While that is true I'm sure they'll be back once 'second-hand' cars start to become availabe. And if not their place will be taken by others of the same stature.

[iceman-1987]

That's correct, but the current rule change is also because of the general critique that the cars were too tame to deserve the "World Championship" status. Something I can relate too.



even if general critique asked for some change i dont think it was necessary to develop and upgrade the power of the car!! it was already 330 hp which is already a good power. the oldest car of supertouring were beautifull and yet they had nearly 300 hp!
this one is the realt thing that i cant accept and understand!! if the organizer said ok we must do some change to the aereodinamic package, to the weight, to the tyres and to the front and rear wings probably we would have still on the grid the bmw 320 and seat leon!!

[Bramzel]

Originally Posted by iceman-1987

even if general critique asked for some change i dont think it was necessary to develop and upgrade the power of the car!! it was already 330 hp which is already a good power. the oldest car of supertouring were beautifull and yet they had nearly 300 hp!
this one is the realt thing that i cant accept and understand!! if the organizer said ok we must do some change to the aereodinamic package, to the weight, to the tyres and to the front and rear wings probably we would have still on the grid the bmw 320 and seat leon!!

And whats the point of a World Championship with second hand cars, old models of the BMW and Seat that aren't sold anymore?

It's better to have 16 high-quality cars than to have 32 run-down beaters.

[helmat]

Lada reveals their new Granta:

looking good
€: http://www.touringcartimes.com/2014/...t-magny-cours/

[iceman-1987]

i thought that with the new changes even the lada could seem a decent car but i have to admit that i really was wrong!!!
it was ugly before and it is still ugly now!

[iceman-1987]

http://https://www.facebook.com/Worl...type=1&theater



someone can explain me why if your look behind thompson and you focus your look on the rear right tyre you can see that there is a hole and you can see the track!!

[jimothy84]

At least the arches give the mechanics somewhere to rest their coffee mugs...

[Rubio]

Actually, I've thought it will look worse, but I have to say this Lada is quite good. Anyway the 2015 car (should be Lada Vesta) should look much better

[Pettersson]

Can't wait to see the livery of that Lada. I've been a bit sceptical about the high level of aero on the TC1 cars, and I hope they don't evolve into using those DTM style flaps for extra aero.

But if the aero stays as it is and the racing proves to be good, I think this will be a very good set of regulations. TC1 has made it cool to compete in touring cars again, they got 'the looks' (reminds me a bit of the 70's Group 5 touring cars) and they sure sounds great. Stiff and firm pure racing chassis, small-displacement high revving turbo engines with a bit of anti lag system, tight touring car action. Mmm... Really looking forward to the season opener.

[Canuck59NHL]

http://youtu.be/xGQaeY3cvMk

[Canuck59NHL]

Other video by Rob Huff:
http://instagram.com/p/lf1KnFR62k/

[mikuni]

Originally Posted by iceman-1987

someone can explain me why if your look behind thompson and you focus your look on the rear right tyre you can see that there is a hole and you can see the track!!

Vents to let the air out, otherwise it acts as a parachute effectively.

[iceman-1987]

wiechers out of wtcc 2014.

we are going always more to a championship with 16 tc1 plus 2 or 3 tc2. The hope is that in 2015 there will be available more tc1 cars to allow at other indipendent teams to return in the series.

[Metzo]

Originally Posted by Canuck59NHL

Other video by Rob Huff:
http://instagram.com/p/lf1KnFR62k/

sounds great

[AxelF]

Originally Posted by iceman-1987

wiechers out of wtcc 2014.

we are going always more to a championship with 16 tc1 plus 2 or 3 tc2. The hope is that in 2015 there will be available more tc1 cars to allow at other indipendent teams to return in the series.

Wiechers should do ETCC instead.
And i hope we see a lot of these cars in ETCC, so ETCC can become a very good championship too!

[Rubio]

New theme for WTCC this year and I guess new TV graphics as well

Today is the deadline for full season entries, c'mon, bring us some TC2 announcements

[Bramzel]

I actually think the championship would be perfectly fine with its current 16 TC1 cars. TC2's wouldn't add anything at all.

[Sjoestrem]

Could be interesting season with new regulations but I'm still afraid of DTM style. One thing that make me hope is a possibility to see new cars in 2015, may be WTCC can become a little bit as BTCC - I mean privaters making new models in TC1 class.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by Sjoestrem

Could be interesting season with new regulations but I'm still afraid of DTM style. One thing that make me hope is a possibility to see new cars in 2015, may be WTCC can become a little bit as BTCC - I mean privaters making new models in TC1 class.

but Lotti and his followers did s**k it up to the manufacturers and that privateers are not really that important, Alan Gow in the BTCC has gone the opposite route encouraging and supporting the privateers

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by Sjoestrem

One thing that make me hope is a possibility to see new cars in 2015, may be WTCC can become a little bit as BTCC - I mean privaters making new models in TC1 class.

You mean like RML is already doing with the new TC1 Cruze. Chevrolet need to give approval before the FIA will homologate the car, but other than that it's a privately funded project.

The need for manufacturer approval and the enormous costs involved mean you are unlikely to see many more privateer cars though.

[Go_For_Pole]

TV audence goes from strength to strength

[I Rosputnik]

That is one crazy wide Lada, I want to see if someone can stick a cup of coffee on the arches and not fall off.

Hope the team finally get on the podium this year. It's been a long time coming.

[porsche962fan]

Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

Hope the team finally get on the podium this year. It's been a long time coming.

if it wasn't for a Alain Menu , Lada would had already a podium

[FIRE]

LADA copied the NGTC wheel arches.