Ford's Return to GT Racing - Page 37

CyberMotor · 12 Feb 2016, 01:31 (Ref:3614101)

OK, here's my heartfelt support to Ford. I was born a couple blocks away from where Henry Ford built his Model T factory and introduced the assembly line and wages high enough so that the workers could afford the vehicles they were building.

Several revolutionary concepts introduced here.

Here's a website I did on my first visit to the Ford Museum...

http://www.lasersol.com/ford_museum.html

Lagunaseca_4life · 12 Feb 2016, 06:31 (Ref:3614125)

Ford has hybrids and plug in hybrids with the fusion and cmax,and including the fully electric focus.ford has been producing and selling hybrids for around a decade now,long before the fancy wec lmp1 rules and those fords have been using those new fangled regenerative braking and hybrid battery packs for years now long before the p1s were running them.

Ford loses money on every hybrid they make,with the amounts of money that goes into research and development plus manufacturing and tooling to build the systems.ford loses money on hybrid vehicles,as do most other brands.they make hybrids to meet the government regulations that are getting tighter and tighter every year it seems like.plus the customers that do buy hybrids are not interested in performance or racing.hybrid buyers are fleets like cities or insurance agencies,commuters,and pretty much tree hungers who like to feel like they are making a change in the world with their close to zero emission vehicles(but fail to see the pollution that's created to make the battery and other components in other countries with less strict emissions,then put on a container ship,then on a train before delivered to the plant,kinda defeating the purpose of a close to zero emission vehicle) they could care less about what's going on at a race track in France.to them racing is a waste.

I get that we are a passionate bunch,but some need to open your eyes and realize the scam that wec lpm1 hybrid rules are.you can say road relevancy this and that,blah blah blah.but the way hybrids are used in wec are not even close to the way hybrids are used on road cars.lmp1s use them as a power boost,not as a primary power source.road cars use them as a primary power source to drive the car.p1s would be more relevant if the hybrid drive drove the car up to 80-100mph And then the engine kicked on and powered the car up to top speed.don't get me wrong the cars are cool and fast and have a lot of technology.but don't fall for the marketing scam.

Every manufacturer out there has a hybrid of some sort,but you don't see them racing at Le Mans.no point to shame on ford because they don't want to spend money in p1 when they've been spending money on r&d already and producing hybrids without ever turning a lap.no point shaming on ford because of your love for the vag bros in p1,who both should be ashamed of with the vw tdi scam p1 is tip toeing on ice and the final out come of the "diesel gate" may break the ice,it's already been cracked with the two car only at Le Mans this year.....

Lagunaseca_4life · 12 Feb 2016, 06:38 (Ref:3614126)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Something for us to get into a good marketing hype discussion about:

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/0...-two-cars.html

Or do they think they will have reliability problems on a car?

:

Why did audi run four cars at Le Mans in 2012 when the etron Quattro debuted? Two e-trons and two r18 plus,with Peugeot planing to do the same thing before they got axed.what did they think,reliability?

Akrapovic · 12 Feb 2016, 12:00 (Ref:3614176)

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Originally Posted by Lagunaseca_4life

Why did audi run four cars at Le Mans in 2012 when the etron Quattro debuted? Two e-trons and two r18 plus,with Peugeot planing to do the same thing before they got axed.what did they think,reliability?

Redundancy for hybrid issues I think.

Coach Ep · 12 Feb 2016, 15:01 (Ref:3614218)

Cool to see 3 Fords at Daytona already!

wdave0 · 12 Feb 2016, 15:36 (Ref:3614229)

Design convergance!

CyberMotor · 13 Feb 2016, 23:48 (Ref:3614482)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Cool to see 3 Fords at Daytona already!

Great photo! As you know, Ford and Ferrari have a bit of history.

With the Ford GT, I think the only thing missing is a propulsion system that mounts right in the middle of that rear with those big holes.

What if... Ford is planning to use Compressed Air storage for braking and energy recovery and then use those compressed gasses for acceleration releases through a big burst of compressed air release out that rear?

Talking about a rocketship!

bentley speed 8 · 14 Feb 2016, 06:05 (Ref:3614537)

I read somewhere that they fixed a radar and a camera inside those two holes

PorscheFanNo1 · 16 Feb 2016, 11:51 (Ref:3615083)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

But then again that's what some say that the spirit of the Maserati MC12 was, or that it went against that spirit because Maserati/Ferrari/Fiat released photos of the race car before the road car.

Sorry for late quote, and slight off topic. But this is one of the biggest bummers in the GT world in the last 15 years in my opnion, that we never got to see the MC12 at full speed at Le Mans up against the Corvettes and Astons.

Deleted · 16 Feb 2016, 21:40 (Ref:3615265)

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Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

Sorry for late quote, and slight off topic. But this is one of the biggest bummers in the GT world in the last 15 years in my opnion, that we never got to see the MC12 at full speed at Le Mans up against the Corvettes and Astons.

Maybe in FIA GT trim, and under Vitaphone reign, it would have had chance against factory C6.R and DBR9, but not if anywhere near ALMS-mandated specs

wdave0 · 27 Feb 2016, 13:27 (Ref:3618236)

Why the change from Muke to Dixon?

Bcarr6 · 27 Feb 2016, 14:18 (Ref:3618243)

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Originally Posted by wdave0

Why the change from Muke to Dixon?

My guess is Stefan will be off prepping for WEC

Fogelhund · 27 Feb 2016, 16:02 (Ref:3618253)

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Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

Sorry for late quote, and slight off topic. But this is one of the biggest bummers in the GT world in the last 15 years in my opnion, that we never got to see the MC12 at full speed at Le Mans up against the Corvettes and Astons.

While this Ford GT might move the bar a little, ultimately I don't see this as the same issues as the MC12 had. First, I don't believe Ford designed a race car primarily, and the built a few road versions to homologate the race version. The MC12 was just a race car, the road version an after thought.

Second, the MC12 didn't even follow the regulations, with it being wider and cockpit wider than the regulations stated at the time. Had they actually built it, to the correct dimensions, it probably would have been allowed to race in ACO races.

TF110 · 27 Feb 2016, 22:54 (Ref:3618314)

Then gte started allowing > 2000mm wide cars. Kinda funny if you ask me. Another issue was the aero. I remember it trying alms for a bit, but neutered (rear wing smaller, overhangs shorter etc). Ford is a ways from the other gte's, but it fits the class. I hope it moves the class up a notch in terms of competing cars.

carbon_titanium · 28 Feb 2016, 20:48 (Ref:3618481)

Beyond the fact that MC12 was accepted only in FIA GT, never accepted at le mans and in ALMS sometimes wasn't allowed to points; need to remember that, except 2010, vitaphone racing faced only small and unbacked private teams like carsport, KplusK, lucalphand etc... that barely had the budget to field their cars race by race, while in 2009 vitaphone was able to field 3 MC12 in second half of the season...
against corvette racing and prodrive AMR, they couldn't get a chance!

Simmi · 7 Mar 2016, 11:03 (Ref:3620852)

Quick Ford question. I'm sure the info is out there but struggling to find it.

Where is the Ford UK base? I'm assuming it's where the Multimatic facility is? Is it near Silverstone?

HORNDAWG · 7 Mar 2016, 16:35 (Ref:3620924)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Quick Ford question. I'm sure the info is out there but struggling to find it.

Where is the Ford UK base? I'm assuming it's where the Multimatic facility is? Is it near Silverstone?

Here you go.

http://careers.multimatic.com/?career_id=419

L.P.

GT3.14 · 7 Mar 2016, 21:57 (Ref:3621033)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Quick Ford question. I'm sure the info is out there but struggling to find it.

Where is the Ford UK base? I'm assuming it's where the Multimatic facility is? Is it near Silverstone?

The former Triple Eight facility in Banbury.

Mike E · 14 Mar 2016, 12:12 (Ref:3622669)

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/0...te-effort.html

'The No. 66 Ford GT will be raced by a formidable line-up featuring German Stefan Mücke, Frenchman Olivier Pla and American Billy Johnson, while Scot Marino Franchitti, Guernsey-based Andy Priaulx and Englishman Harry Tincknell form a very strong squad in the No. 67 Ford GT.'

'The No. 68 Ford GT line-up of American Joey Hand and German Dirk Müller will be strengthened by the addition of Frenchman Sébastien Bourdais at Le Mans, with New Zealander Scott Dixon joining Englishman Richard Westbrook and Australian Ryan Briscoe in the No. 69 car.'

**joeb** · 14 Mar 2016, 12:44 (Ref:3622677)

I did not expect to see Tincknell there, good pickup!

Victor_RO · 14 Mar 2016, 12:47 (Ref:3622680)

Dixon in the #69. My question is: will that car consistently go a lap longer on fuel than absolutely everyone else while he's driving?

Deleted · 14 Mar 2016, 13:29 (Ref:3622695)

Will there be special oneoff liveries for Le Mans?

Dyson Mazda · 14 Mar 2016, 13:34 (Ref:3622698)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Will there be special oneoff liveries for Le Mans?

I would love to see them go with the factory colors from 1966

Deleted · 14 Mar 2016, 13:36 (Ref:3622702)

As long as it's not Gulf colors (bored to tears with them now with Aston etc) I'm all in for nostalgia specials.

Dyson Mazda · 14 Mar 2016, 13:41 (Ref:3622706)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

As long as it's not Gulf colors (bored to tears with them now with Aston etc) I'm all in for nostalgia specials.

Considering Castrol is one of the project's major sponsors, I would guess that a Gulf livery is out of the equation.

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