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As joeb points out, this can simplify class structure--instead of having a pro- and Pro-Am subclass in each class, there is just one class--you win the class, you get two trophies, you win just as a pro-Am you still get a trophy. Sure, that means a longer podium ceremony, but it isn't as bad as having a whole prototype and GTLM Pro-Am class, so there are a bunch of three-car classes--instead everyone races everyone heads-up. |
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If there is an Am class for P then that negates the need for PC, which can be moved to the IMSA lites series. I realize the running costs of GTLM are much higher than GTD but I would rather see 15-16 GTLM and say a dozen GTD than 8-9 GTLM and 20ish GTD. |
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Max North American auto entries USCC - 2x for pro-am (must choose P2 or GTE-AM) 2013 ALMS - 2x at-large 2012 ALMS - 2x at-large 2011 ALMS - 3x LMP1, 1x LMP2, 4x GTE etc Last edited by Deleted; 15 Oct 2014 at 17:13. |
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Of course, there may be pro-Am DPs too ... What I like best (though I don't hope mcuch) is the possibility for the elimination of PC. Nothing against PC, except that no top-tier series should run an all-spec field-filler class.
Let the fast Am drivers go to P, send the rest to run in PC with lights. |
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We've started a tracker for 2015 entries, here's the TUSC P class
http://nasportscar.com/entry-list-so-far-tusc-p-class/ |
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This could be a reason Shank wants to get into a P2. Of course, he'd never go to Le Mans. With all of the declined LM24 invites over the years, I'd like to see a rule that says, if a team gets the auto-invite and then doesn't go to LM, they can't win it the next year. Enough is enough.
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It wouldn't be mandatory, you just couldn't do it twice in a row. Why else would a team enter a car in a category where the main prize is an entry to Le Mans?
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15 Oct 2014, 19:36 (Ref:3465398) | #938 | ||
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The auto entry for a team won a by a driver could cause a few headaches here and there but I'd say it's a step up from the way the auto entries have been awarded the last couple of years (Dyson, Muscle Milk, ESM pffff). |
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It's all smoke and mirrors, just like them saying "GT3-type cars eligible for GTD" made everyone go "yay finally GT3 cars!" the last 2 years. Sorry if I sound jaded, but let's call a spade a spade. -mike |
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Seriously why do you hate gtd so much!? It doesn't cause nearly as many fcy as lmpcs and is a bop'd mess as much as gtlm and P.at the track it's dead fun to watch,tv does it no justice when there's five six car battles deep in the field that tv doesn't show.it may not be gt3 but it's still as fun to watch.seriously I hope most gtd teams stay and actually lose all lmpc,and hell why not cut every p2 so the stupid bop debate can EFFin die!
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GTD is like store-brand Pop Tarts. Really crappy when you've had the real thing.
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GTLM tracker: http://nasportscar.com/entry-list-so...sc-gtlm-class/
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16 Oct 2014, 16:47 (Ref:3465675) | #946 | |
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Regarding the P-class tracker:
I notice you list the drivers in the #7 SpeedSource Lola-Mazda as "TBD." Have you heard rumors that Tristan Nunez might be leaving the team? I had thought he planned to stick it out until the team finally showed results. Have you heard that he might have better offers? |
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Take Road America... Incident at 5, So at post 4B would be the start of the 60kph, through 5, then back to speed at 6. It's simple, it works, and the race can continue without everyone losing massive time. I've never understood why so many series are so adverse to it. |
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Probably the series taking the safe route. Imagine you're 20 seconds behind 1st. A car between you and first does a little spin and continue that imsa loves to throw the yellow for. You get to slow for the 60, but when 1st comes around the situation is gone and he gets to blast through the same spot.
I'm not saying I approve or like it, but mgmt would rather take 20 minutes to make sure everyone gets screwed rather than only some get screwed. Same train of thought as the imsa safety team debate. |
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The simple answer there is the local yellow lasts a whole lap. Problem solved.
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Local yellows are there for as long as the incident lasts - in the example of a simple spin and continue maybe a handful of seconds, that'll be all. Yellow freezes the competition and should be limited to a minimum as much as possible (not jeopardizing safety of the car involved in the incident or EV/workers attending).
Extending such (short) local yellows would be wrong as it artificially influences the racing and it wouldn't be any better than the current FCY procedure. For incidents that will take more time, the local yellows could be kept up accordingly or even 'upgraded' to a slow zone/code 60/80 in case of medical attention required, clean up or something similar. FCY (and Red flag) should be the last resort. |
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