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29 Jun 2010, 16:46 (Ref:2719913) | #926 | ||
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It was my understanding from something that Randy Barnard said earlier in the month (at Texas?) to the Indy Star that they would make some sort of statement on the 30th, but no final decision on the chassis builder will be made at that time.
What the Hell that means, I don't really know...maybe an update on the ICONIC's progress? |
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29 Jun 2010, 17:08 (Ref:2719923) | #927 | ||
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The longer they delay this, the harder it's going to be for whichever manufacturer they choose to design and build a new chassis in time for 2012.
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29 Jun 2010, 21:22 (Ref:2720061) | #928 | ||
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[QUOTE=bjohnsonsmith;2714544]Bob probably is remembering when Colin introduced cheaper lighter and softer steel to Indy race car construction in 1969... and then had to withdraw his new cars before they even got to qualifications following 1 death and a second crash and fire that left the victim too badly scared to pose for the post race victory photos, so his twin brother had to sit in.
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30 Jun 2010, 05:25 (Ref:2720165) | #929 | ||
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so a tube frame car won't be safe at INDY speeds?
or are all those GT cars and Nascar tube frame animals hideously unsafe at speed? a safety tub to allow for a tube frame variant would be pretty cool for the smaller teams and maybe everyone will get in the act- all IRL goes to the Old silver crown spec...probably not. carbon tubs and chassis it is then |
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30 Jun 2010, 05:56 (Ref:2720172) | #930 | ||
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Today is supposed to be the day that at least some news is released about the ICONIC panel's decision.
There's a new bunch of cars ready to take the track...safer, flashier, with brand identity and manufacturer involvement built right in. They will compete in the Nascar Nationwide Series, and it re-starts this weekend at Daytona. Must be my head is too full of IndyCar sand, 'cause I didn't see much about this until watching ESPN tonight. The new Mustangs and Challengers, based around Cup car chassis, look GREAT. This is going to be major buzz, and it wouldn't surprise me to see the changes get fast-tracked for competition into the Sprint Cup Series as well. The plan at present to do so is indefinite, perhaps a few years away. Nascar is bound to see a bounce, in ratings and attendance, in both divisions. When you see the cars, you'll know what I mean. Somebody's piece of pie just went to the other table. |
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Indy Car Just Sent This News Release a Few Minutes Ago:
IZOD INDYCAR CAR SERIES TO ANNOUNCE FUTURE CAR STRATEGY JULY 14 INDIANAPOLIS (June 30, 2010) - The IZOD IndyCar Series will announce details regarding its future car strategy during a media event Wednesday, July 14, in Indianapolis. More information about the event will follow. "The ICONIC Advisory Committee continues to work diligently to finalize our future car strategy and a decision is imminent," said Randy Bernard, chief executive officer, IndyCar. "We look forward to unveiling our plans to our teams, drivers, partners, fans and the media during a special event on July 14." IZOD IndyCar Series officials and ICONIC (Innovative, Competitive, Open-Wheel, New, Industry-Relevant, Cost-Effective) Advisory Committee members will not comment about the next generation of chassis until the July 14 news conference. The IZOD IndyCar Series formed the ICONIC Advisory Committee, featuring various industry experts and representatives, to aid in its search for its future car. The committee has been tasked with reviewing, researching and making a recommendation on the next generation of IZOD IndyCar Series engine and chassis. The ICONIC Advisory Committee includes Brian Barnhart, Tony Cotman, Gil de Ferran, Eddie Gossage, Rick Long, Tony Purnell and Neil Ressler. Retired Air Force Gen. William R. Looney III is the moderator. Looks like we'll know a lot more in two weeks... |
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1 Jul 2010, 13:04 (Ref:2720745) | #932 | ||
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I can wait until the 14th since it's now clear it won't be that Delta-winged Batmobile... I can relax.
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For some reason I couldn't see the article on-line, but the front page of the Indy Star had a brief article about the upcoming announcement, plus the backgrounds and the assessment
He figures that Lola and Dallare are "Likely," Swift as a "Possible," BAT as a "Maybe" and DeltaWing as an 'Unlikely" It is his opinion, however...nothing to back it up...just a gut feeling. ICONIC has been as tight as a drum on this and I'm hearing not one whisper here in Indy about who might have the inside track... I would think that they would give the team owners and such a "heads-up" before doing the formal announcement, and if they do, that would be the only "leak" we might get. The members of ICONIC signed Non-Disclosure Agreements as a condition to serve, so they are keeping their mouths shut. |
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I would really like to see Lola get it.
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Because she walks like a woman but talks like a man... or is it because her Champagne tastes just like Cherry-cola??
I'd like to see more than one approved... 3 would be cool and that could include lay-lo-lo-lo-lo Lola. |
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2 Jul 2010, 15:03 (Ref:2721173) | #940 | |
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I think it would be a better idea to go with one considering the financial climate.
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These guys are punting on the first down and copping out. Especially with ratings like Iowa with a .09, the end is near. With the economy slipping into a depression for good if you don't have an exceptional product you are done for. With the snoozer vague engine regs they put out and likely aiming towards another one make car, I think that is all she wrote. Whether it dies this year or in 2013, wont matter cause it wont survive. |
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The new chassis will be designed to race on all tracks. The problem with the Dallara, apart fom it's appearance, is it was designed just for ovals not road/street courses.
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3 Jul 2010, 04:40 (Ref:2721355) | #945 | ||
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MS, the product at Iowa was pretty exceptional, and would you honestly expect a better rating for anything on Versus?
You keep posting here. If you're so bloody dissatisfied, DO something about it! Harass the powers-that-be till they can't take it anymore! If not, go back to watching your Shell Oil films of AAA and USAC Indy Car races, on dirt ovals and before all those "furriners" with their mid-engined cars showed up, and leave us in peace. That is, if you're just never going to make a decent point and only going to complain all of the time. Amar, Denver lasted five seasons. Counting this year, Edmonton is on six. St. Petersburg is still going. The crowds at San Jose looked good in the stands, and there was no sign of things being up after the third event. And all of those temporary circuits put on decent racing, as did Las Vegas in 2007. Houston would have been helped by NOT having that chicane in the front stretch, but that course was reasonable for competition as well. Hey, they may be street circuits, but the the cookie-cutter ovals haven't been cutting it lately, and as far as I'm concerned, the temporary courses were. BJS, the Dallara could honestly look a whole heck of a lot worse. It will be nice though to have a machine better suited to road racing. |
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The ratings for Iowa finally appeared today on Sports Business Watch, 0.2. EVERY race on Versus has been better.
That's infomercial ratings. The Ginsu Steak Knife 250. Sucks like an Orek vacuum. Versus proved they could be found by a large enough audience to grab a 3.0 share for a mid-week National Hockey League playoff game. Viewers all had many opportunities to see the Izod IndyCar commercials during the Versus hockey programming. |
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Not wanting to go OT here, but it does tie in to some recent comments.. Does anyone think the blatant Indycar advertisment during NASCAR races will help Indycar? The Toronto race is being supported by the NASCAR Canadian Tire Series too, and even the commentators in last nights Subway 250 at Daytona referenced to the Indy 500. And Dario's NH lap too.
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