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weren't st talking it up (before their cars were even completed) about having more manufacturers in their series than V8SC?
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Hmmm Probably the UZ actually. Lots more development done on that. Bugger all done on the UR so far.
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Well if that's true then all they would have needed to do was add one, wouldn't they? It would have been said before the recent V8SC announcement of Nissan coming in, so apart from having your usual dig I'm not sure what the point of that post was...
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The 4.7l version? Would still be the smallest out there by some margin, so will have a different performance curve. We get back to the issue of just how much you can control the torque curve with electronics alone...
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1uz. 4 ltr revving to 9500 rpm
In reality I think it will depend on if Toyota themselves decide to put money into it. Personally I wouldn't be putting money on it |
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I understand in ST, McIntyre is effectively a Ford NZ entry and Murphy a Holden NZ entry as they have significant backing from the respective "factories". I don't know if these "factory" relationships exist in either NZV8 or the revamped NZV8. If this is correct then it appears that Ford NZ and Holden NZ have backed ST instead of the revamped NZV8 and that may be a disincentive for Toyota NZ getting involved? The cost of Holden and Ford's backing would be much less than Toyotas as they didn't need to develop an engine or underwrite the cost of panels etc. Therefore it is a much bigger commitment required from any new manufacturer like Toyota. |
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I reckon the STs will be well off the SC lap times. They are heavier and 200 odd hp down
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Oh ok I thought it was 500 vs 700
When did the SC drop under 700?? |
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Wonder what the new NZV8 donks will be allowed to develop? |
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Hmm seems I could be out of date with my figures. I also thought the SCs were 1250.
Still, given the level of developmet and tech in them, I'd be surprised if the STs are as fast. Can one of the ST teams please test at Puke? |
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the Fords and Holdens were just over 700hp before the major rule changes about 6 or 7 years ago when the Holdens switched from the Chev engine to the Aurora engine.Lots of other rules at the same time such as restricted choice of camshafts, limited valve lift, minimum components weight etc. When Murph did his "lap of the gods" it was with the old spec. Chev engine, which might go some way to explain why it has taken so long to get back to that lap time around the Mountain. The ST has been tested around Puke, albeit the prototype car. I believe the times were comparable to a V8SC, even in this early stage.
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Goat Boy. I think you power to weight on the ST may be a little off, considering they had a min weight of 1390 at HD. Bring on the future of NZV8 exciting times ahead. |
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The Aurora was introduced for parity reasons, same deck height, conrod length etc as the Ford engine, and a special small port version of an existing Chev canted valve head. The Aurora was introduced in 2003, but the tightening of engine regs, re camshafts and such didn't come in till later, maybe 07/08 ish. |
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Yeah I took that from the early press release, but Mark Petch informed me it was 1390 at HD compared to 1455 for a V8SC.
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J Mac confirmed 1390 kg was the figure used last meeting, as those with light cars had to match the heaviest car in the field. For Jmr their only option was to run more fuel which did not help the handling.
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