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why is it more dangerous? I would have thought significantly less dangerous.
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24 Apr 2018, 05:46 (Ref:3817111) | #78 | |
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Yeah I've always found the practice of allowing cars to drive at full speed to the back of the SC queue to be a strange one.
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24 Apr 2018, 07:25 (Ref:3817119) | #80 | ||
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They do follow the car in front, yes. At 99.99% of full race pace. Don't try to tell me differently, I have seen the data with my own eyes on more than one occasion, at multiple circuits.
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24 Apr 2018, 09:17 (Ref:3817135) | #81 | |
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Need to implement some SC deltas at the very least.
They did try an SC speed limiter at one point, but nothing since. |
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24 Apr 2018, 10:03 (Ref:3817142) | #82 | |
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It's quite situational. In a situation where there are pit stops occuring, most of the time cars will drive back at full pace to get their stops done and try to reduce the amount of cars behind who aren't stopping from jumping them and vice versa. I see this all the time in many different series as the rules allow it and there's every chance you can either win or lose out if you back off too much.
The problem for me with the rule is sometimes in a serious accident the SC will be deployed and some drivers won't take enough caution in the double yellow waved zones where the incident is leading to some dangerous situations. The solution is quite an easy one and F1 employs it successfully. That being said I don't recall off the top of my head any situations in Supercars which were a bit iffy as a result and that might have a lot to do with the quality of drivers in the field but in some junior formula it gets pretty sketchy at time. |
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Good response, and thus the reason its not an issue in supercars and pitlane is more dangerous even at 40 kmh |
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Incidents under safety car conditions have happened. I would hate to think that a driver could be trapped in a car on fire without assistance because it is unsafe to enter the circuit because drivers are still driving at ten-tenths. |
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24 Apr 2018, 21:24 (Ref:3817249) | #85 | ||
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Thus we dont have problems in Supercars and thus pitlane is much more dangerous which is why its a 40 zone |
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Formula One has radios but requires drivers to slow to a delta time under safety car conditions. A safety car is deployed because conditions on the track are deemed to dangerous to allow the race to continue under normal conditions - but it is still okay to drive flat out to make a pitstop and catch-up to the safety car. |
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James Courtneys car was parked on the side of the pit entry on the weekend, It was perfectly safe to race on with waving yellows, however to move the car and allow the race to go back to normal racing conditions , people needed to go back on the track, Once the field was brought under the control of the safety car then they allow people to go on the track. that is the system we have It remains much more dangerous in pitlane which is why we have 40km/h By the way, your system just changed the race results in sunday's race significantly, as some cars had pitted before the yellow flag and others hadnt, |
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It is a problem that has been around for a while, but Supercars and CAMS seem to have no interest in fixing it, despite the likes of F1, WEC and Crevantic having alternate systems, and obviously the American system for NASCAR, Indycar etc... involving closing the pits. It will unfortunately take a major incident to force any change to the current procedure of allowing Supercar drivers to push at full speed to get back to the pits under safety car conditions. If the Supercar races weren't so pitstop focused, this wouldn't be as much of an issue. |
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25 Apr 2018, 23:54 (Ref:3817428) | #89 | |
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Any truth in the rumour that Mr Kelly’s Nissan was given a very thorough going over by officials after the event?
Lots of measuring and weighing taking place by officials for nearly an hour or so, another team protesting? |
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26 Apr 2018, 00:15 (Ref:3817430) | #90 | |
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Wouldn't surprise me given their performance was out of the ordinary that we come to expect from the Nissan boys.
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26 Apr 2018, 00:17 (Ref:3817431) | #91 | ||
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Aha ! Was that where Dale Wood ran his team mate up the date crossing the top of the hill under safety car with a full-course yellow ? He then blamed radio problems as the cause ! I thought at the time he should have been instantly sacked and his cards marked never to drive a supercar again, yet it hardly raised a mention and nobody subsequently seemed at all fazed about what could have been a major shocker for all sorts of reasons. Baffling, to me anyway. . |
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Don't know about another team protesting but it's common practice for at least 1 car at random to get a very thorough checking each race meeting (on top of all the other checks done over the weekend). May well have been Mr Kelly's car on the weekend.
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