Panoz Abruzzi - Page 4

Simmi · 2 Oct 2010, 12:35 (Ref:2768118)

http://ow.ly/i/4gfw

Invisibility cloak removed. Here she is!

MJ_N_09 · 2 Oct 2010, 13:17 (Ref:2768129)

Wow. I gotta say, it doesn't look bad in the GT race version. It looks even better than the Esperantes of last year....well almost.

I Rosputnik · 2 Oct 2010, 15:56 (Ref:2768186)

Here's a better image

m1fcf · 2 Oct 2010, 15:59 (Ref:2768195)

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Here's a better image

Is that one of the original coupes on the far side? That was the first car I saw at speed when I first went to Le Mans - lets say it left an impression!

MJ_N_09 · 2 Oct 2010, 16:09 (Ref:2768204)

Well, car did not start. I'm not surprised though, because apparently it wasn't ready yet. Isn't Zhuhai supposed be the debut now?

MJ_N_09 · 2 Oct 2010, 16:13 (Ref:2768208)

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Here's a better image

I wonder if anyone plans to make that into a Firefox theme. It would be really nice.

jc_nl · 2 Oct 2010, 17:48 (Ref:2768274)

I have to say that it looks somewhat better in race trim, but it's still no miss world.

picchiofan · 2 Oct 2010, 17:50 (Ref:2768278)

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I have to say that it looks somewhat better in race trim, but it's still no miss world.

Looks like somebody stuck a late 90's Erebuni body kit on an old GTS. Eesh.

andy_b · 2 Oct 2010, 19:35 (Ref:2768335)

and it did a lap, earlier this morning....

MJ_N_09 · 2 Oct 2010, 20:12 (Ref:2768356)

In before bashing, just like what the Jag got for doing the same thing.

NightStalk3r · 2 Oct 2010, 20:58 (Ref:2768376)

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Originally Posted by MJ_N_09

In before bashing, just like what the Jag got for doing the same thing.

Completely different, we know what PTG can do, RSR have done nothing but been slow and unreliable.

The359 · 2 Oct 2010, 21:08 (Ref:2768381)

RSR are building the entire car from scratch, PTG is modifying an existing Esperante GT-LM.

Don Panoz says the car will be testing at Road Atlanta this week, then going to China, and expects 2 Abruzzis at Sebring. Also says there are European customers looking at it.

MJ_N_09 · 2 Oct 2010, 23:13 (Ref:2768446)

Oh no! I don't mean to bash the Panoz at all. I am just pointing out that although the Abruzzi did the same thing that the Jaguar did last year,which was to show up, do one lap, but never run the race, the time difference really shows that it won't be the struggling cause of the Jags.

Bottom line; the Abruzzi program is like what, 4 months old and already has the car finished, while the Jaguar program is almost exactly 2 years and counting, but almost nothing to show for it.

Also, judging from how ling the Esperante was raced, the Abruuzi will likely be here on the grid for a lonnnnngggg time to come.

TF110 · 3 Oct 2010, 03:00 (Ref:2768512)

I'm sorry but the car just doesn't do it for me. Not only does it look out of place, but I doubt it'll do any better than the last Panoz that raced. Regardless of tires. I'm more interested in seeing the Gallardo's in GT next year in ALMS, not this thing. It's much too big, the car seemingly swallows the wheels and makes them look like they're rolling on donuts. This thing is ridiculous. I don't see how it's appealing to anyone in race trim or out. Just my two cents. I don't see a good future for this car, maybe it will have one, but I have my doubts.

NightStalk3r · 3 Oct 2010, 03:26 (Ref:2768519)

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Originally Posted by TF110

I'm sorry but the car just doesn't do it for me. Not only does it look out of place, but I doubt it'll do any better than the last Panoz that raced

You mean the Panoz that won multiple ALMS Races and won the Le Mans 24hr?

TF110 · 3 Oct 2010, 05:25 (Ref:2768529)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

You mean the Panoz that won multiple ALMS Races and won the Le Mans 24hr?

That was NOT the last Panoz. So NO, that's not what I mean. I mean the esparante gt2 car, which only had limited success. Not to crack on Panoz, but it's been a while since it had a successful car.

HORNDAWG · 3 Oct 2010, 05:29 (Ref:2768530)

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That was NOT the last Panoz. So NO, that's not what I mean. I mean the esparante.

The Esperante is what NightStalk3r was talking about!!

L.P.

TF110 · 3 Oct 2010, 05:32 (Ref:2768531)

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The Esperante is what NightStalk3r was talking about!!

L.P.

I edited my post to show what I was talking about. The GT2 car was not very successful. It did win a few races, and held it's own, but it wasn't the most reliable of cars. I hope the new Panoz car does better, but IMO I don't think it will.

HORNDAWG · 3 Oct 2010, 05:35 (Ref:2768532)

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Originally Posted by TF110

I edited my post to show what I was talking about. The GT2 car was not very successful. It did win a few races, and held it's own, but it wasn't the most reliable of cars. I hope the new Panoz car does better, but IMO I don't think it will.

Not successful? It won its class at FREAKING Le Mans! How much bigger does it get??

L.P.

TF110 · 3 Oct 2010, 05:41 (Ref:2768535)

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Not successful? It won its class at FREAKING Le Mans! How much bigger does it get??

L.P.

When was that? When did the Esparante GTLM GT2 car win it's class at LeMans? I'm not speaking of the GT1 car there bud.

HORNDAWG · 3 Oct 2010, 05:42 (Ref:2768536)

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Originally Posted by TF110

When was that? When did the Esparante GTLM GT2 car win it's class at LeMans? I'm not speaking of the GT1 car there bud.

http://www.knfilters.com/news/news.aspx?ID=462

There you go, Bud!

or pick from several:http://www.bing.com/search?q=LNT+win...=QBLH&qs=n&sk=

L.P.

TF110 · 3 Oct 2010, 05:46 (Ref:2768538)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

http://www.knfilters.com/news/news.aspx?ID=462

There you go, Bud!

L.P.

So in 2006, what year is it now? Like I said, it's been a long time since they've been successful. I never said they didn't have any success at all, and I didn't know they won GT2 at LeMans, which is why I asked. But since I've watched ALMS Panoz hasn't been at or near the front for a long time.

HORNDAWG · 3 Oct 2010, 05:47 (Ref:2768539)

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Originally Posted by TF110

So in 2006, what year is it now? Like I said, it's been a long time since they've been successful. I never said they didn't have any success at all, and I didn't know they won GT2 at LeMans, which is why I asked. But since I've watched ALMS Panoz hasn't been at or near the front for a long time.

L.P.

TF110 · 3 Oct 2010, 05:57 (Ref:2768542)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

L.P.

uhh, ok

I asked a question. Panoz's new car is the topic at hand, I don't see them coming in and being successful, if you do that's fine. And it's been a while since they've had success. If you disagree that's fine, I didn't come here to argue with you.

Félix · 3 Oct 2010, 09:54 (Ref:2768577)

The Esperante won Sebring and Le Mans, and it competed for the lead for several years against Porsche and Ferrari in the ALMS. Outside of those 2 brands, it's the most successful GT2 car ever (maybe tied with the BMWs, but BMW's pedigree in the endurance classics against quality opponents is somewhat weaker to me).

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