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Any news on Robert Wickens - I heard he'd been talking to some F1 teams, but nothing concrete. The Toronto Star's Norris MacDonald also reported he had lost his Redbull backing.
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Intersting to see some good drivers testing in Portimeo next week, Smith, Summerton and Tappy. I expected most to defer until the upgrades were done in the new year. |
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I wouldn't be surprised if Duncan Tappy stayed in SF to be honest.
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If Tappy were to stay in Superleague (although he only did two events in '09), then I would suspect that it would be in conjunction with an attack on another formula, such as F2. Although the profile of Superleague is growing, it has yet to be demonstrated that this could be a feeder formula for say, F1 or Indy Cars. Although, similar things could be said in regards to F2, it does have the benefit of the Williams test for the winner.
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New formula2 car will be presented at Lugo(Spain) roadshow 13 december , day after testing at Portimao.
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10 Dec 2009, 09:40 (Ref:2597187) | #83 | |
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22 drivers overall testing at Portimao 11-12 december.
http://www.formulatwo.com/ Renger Van Der Zande testing one day , also three 2009 f-master drivers arrived. |
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Other series times at Portimao:
1.30.8 GP2 1.33.4 WSR 1.37.5 F3 Morning session 1. Dean Smith, 1:35.660s ( 1.35.137 also mentioned). 2. Johan Jokinen, 1:36.294s 3. Ramon Pineiro, 1:36.305s 4. Benjamin Bailly, 1:36.318s 5. Duncan Tappy, 1:36.522s 6. Jolyon Palmer, 1:36.704s 7. Kazim Vasiliauskas, 1:36.718s 8. Benjamin Lariche, 1:36.814s 9. Jack Clarke, 1:36.873s 10. Nico Muller, 1:36.927s 11. Mihai Marinescu, 1:37.352s 12. Alex Brundle, 1:37.354s 13. Kelvin Snoeks, 1:37.374s 14. Jose Alonso Liste, 1:37.656s 15. Ivan Samarin, 1:37.783s 16. Ricardo Teixeira, 1:37.900s 17. Paul Rees, 1:38.749s Afternoon session 1. Kazim Vasiliauskas, 1:36.593s 2. Johan Jokinen, 1:36.627s 3. Dean Smith, 1:36.846s 4. Duncan Tappy, 1:36.956s 5. Jack Clarke, 1:36.965s 6. Benjamin Bailly, 1:37.046s 7. Jolyon Palmer, 1:37.048s 8. Benjamin Lariche, 1:37.158s 9. Alex Brundle, 1:37.395s 10. Nico Muller, 1:37.544s 11. Mihai Marinescu, 1:37.744s 12. Jose Alonso Liste, 1:37.845s 13. Ricardo Teixeira, 1:37.934s 14. Kelvin Snoeks, 1:38.123s 15. Ivan Samarin, 1:38.241s 16. Paul Rees, 1:38.287s Andy Soucek testing new parts for 2010 - thus his times unknown , but reported he is the fastest man on track. http://f2.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...ds-to-30-cars/ 2010 Formula 2 grid expands to 30 cars |
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Races aso increased to 40 minutes in duration.
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I agree its bizarre. How can they drop him after he finished as vice-champion in F2, yet keep Brendon Hartley who has had a shocking season and completely under-performed!
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Day two results
1. Jolyon Palmer, 1:35.519s 2. Dean Smith, 1:35.599s 3. Renger van der Zande, 1:35.613s 4. Kevin Mirocha, 1:35.629s 5. Kazim Vasiliauskas, 1:35.635s 6. Duncan Tappy, 1:35.694s 7. Johan Jokinen, 1:35.712s 8. Alex Brundle, 1:35.952s 9. Benjamin Lariche, 1:36.040s 10. Tristan Vautier, 1:36.046s 11. Benjamin Bailly, 1:36.194s 12. Mihai Marinescu, 1:36.196s 13. Ivan Samarin, 1:36.289s 14. Jonathan Summerton, 1:36.305s 15. Jack Clarke, 1:36.438s 16. Ricardo Teixeira, 1:36.601s Jonathan shows his worth , i hope Peter Windsor saw that. And i bet Dean Smith forgets his plan to graduate gp3 and stays here - all sessions in top3. |
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I wouldn't conclude Summerton from that test. He will get quicker and quicker and i would definately put money on him to shine in 2010.
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Because Hartley got messed around between 2 different series with 2 completely different cars and had a poor F3 team, whilst Wickens was on a completely level playing field and got made to look vastly inferior by a driver who was mediocre in GP2. Add in his poor year in 2008 in the World Series, I can totally understand their decision - they've got to give Hartley another chance before dropping him, as he's been superb up until now, but Wickens' second chance was this year and he didn't do enough
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They dropped Mirko Bortolotti now - down to 5 drivers.
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F2 was Wickens' last chance in the same way that WSR next year will be Hartley's last chance. And unless Hartley wins the series, he'll be gone - I get the impression he's already slipping out of favour, as seen by him testing for STR and Ricciardo jumping straight in at Red Bull |
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Red Bull have slimmed down the Junior Team to only five drivers next year, which is the fewest they've ever had, so I can only assume that perhaps they are focusing more of their money and resources into the F1 team given it's success this year? |
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Yeah very strange, I saw the releases (or rather the sudden disapperance) of Wickens, Aleshin & Juncadella and presumed Bortolotti would definitely stay being a) Italian b) having tested the STR and c) being of the same 'cohort' if you like of Wickens.
As you say WSR, another season in F2 and he could and should have been a title contender for Red Bull, or do they not have the spare 300,000€ anymore? Considering the relatively low sum it does seem strange not to keep him on. Wonder if Ferrari may be interested in helping him, as they've mentioned a young driver scheme, so could be in their interests to sign him up. Badoer won't be young forever |
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There is absolutely nothing strange when you consider who's the head of this program. Thank god they managed somehow properly Vettel(though I think BMW had their influence too), otherwise this program has little to brag about. Herr Marko could have picked easily more than half of the F1 grid, instead he managed to reject some of the best drivers on the grid.
May be for well-funded drivers it's better to reject Red Bull backing considering that they would have such odd career paths. I mean, Wickens had fantastic debut races in WSbR, could have had a fantastic debut season, but he was sent to F3ES the next year, only to be sent back again to WSbR and then to F2 which is about as fast as F3!?!?!? |
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I get the impression, that over the years, Red Bull look more at marketing opportunities in countries for their product than at the drivers as individuals. So, all may be good drivers, but if they need to plug the product, then the driver from that country keeps sponsorship.
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Oh absolutely. I don't think it's a coincidence that Red Bull's juniors generally come from countries that haven't produced many F1 drivers, such as New Zealand, Australia, Russia and Canada. Plus Klien was token Austrian to start with. They also made a push to sign Bourdais to Toro Rosso for the French market. I'm surprised they haven't backed a Japanese driver, though - they've struggled out there
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Generally I agree jab however in the case of Kvyat he is hardly token because the kid has even better karting CV than Sainz. He is a good choice regardless of nationality. Also it is true that this year at least two excellent drivers rejected Red Bull contracts exactly because they had the funds anyway and of course they were concerned with the way the junior program is handled. As for Mirko, I hope for his sake that he was picked up by Ferrari because he is a very good driver. Turns out that F2 was a low cost dumpster for Red Bull, that's not good for the series.
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