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Old 16 Mar 2013, 04:16 (Ref:3219178)   #76
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Two different offences - Frosty was an unsafe release, Lowndes was a careless release. Clearly must be different grades of offence and different grades of penalty. Stewards summary here: http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/s...park-challenge
Did frosty make contact with anyone?

You'd assume that since theres a different offence, he didn't, yet he recieved a bigger penalty.

This is going to be a long year...
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I see the consistency is still there, Frosty gets a drive through (well 50s) for contact in pitlane, lowndes gets a 1 spot grid penalty!I reckon FPR would be right to feel a little aggrieved by that one.
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Did frosty make contact with anyone?

You'd assume that since theres a different offence, he didn't, yet he recieved a bigger penalty.

This is going to be a long year...
Don't know - we haven't seen footage of either incident really - just the aftermath of the Lowndes one.

I'd assume that "unsafe" was worse than "careless" but who knows.

Could it be that they're missing the consistency of the Wollerman role already?
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Old 16 Mar 2013, 04:22 (Ref:3219181)   #79
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race about to start on ten on One.
noticed (again) the nissans seem to have a new set up that the headlights flash when the cars are in pit lane (assume its related to the pitlane limiter)
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Old 16 Mar 2013, 04:24 (Ref:3219182)   #80
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Don't know - we haven't seen footage of either incident really - just the aftermath of the Lowndes one.

I'd assume that "unsafe" was worse than "careless" but who knows.

Could it be that they're missing the consistency of the Wollerman role already?
Nope, business as usual (ie nothing different to every year previous)
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Have to laugh, the commentators said there was compulsory pitstops, yet no-one pitted haha
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Have to laugh, the commentators said there was compulsory pitstops, yet no-one pitted haha
they also said it was a 14 lap race and they only did 12.

it appears the rules changed because of the conditions
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they also said it was a 14 lap race and they only did 12.

it appears the rules changed because of the conditions
If I heard correctly the commentators said it was due to the conditions and time constraints.
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Have to laugh, the commentators said there was compulsory pitstops, yet no-one pitted haha
Apparently the switch to a wet track and therefore wet tyres, meant that the compulsory pitstop was abandoned

Some cars pitted, Mr McLaughlin's #33 car didnt get off the line on the warmup, Mr Engel had no fun somewhere, while HRT #2 lasted barely a lap!

Not sure why the coverage was focused on the 4 Nissans playing with each other, surely other battles were going on?
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Mr Perkins needs to do it a little more often and be confident in what he says...
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So.. with the F1 Q2 & Q3 to start at 11am... Here... will the other events get affected/shortened/cancelled?
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Sure can not introduce a 45 or minute session there without some serious rearrangements

It is a busy day and am sure there will be commercial decisions not necessarily sporting ones with the rest of the schedule
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noticed (again) the nissans seem to have a new set up that the headlights flash when the cars are in pit lane (assume its related to the pitlane limiter)
I was opposite the Kelly garage in Adelaide. They seem to have front & rear lights flashing when on the limiter - perhaps easier/cheaper to wire in to the main switch in the dash than downstream?
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I was opposite the Kelly garage in Adelaide. They seem to have front & rear lights flashing when on the limiter - perhaps easier/cheaper to wire in to the main switch in the dash than downstream?
it seems a good idea , well up until the point they make a rule about it.

noticed it at clipsal also (as you did)
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So.. with the F1 Q2 & Q3 to start at 11am... Here... will the other events get affected/shortened/cancelled?
Good chance, as F1 is the main act
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F1 doesnt move, everyone moves for F1.

F1's start date for quali in the morning and the race itself wont change at all, everyone else that was supposed to run tomorow will be at the mercy of that and if V8s get cancelled/shortened, V8SC can kick and scream all they want but FIA wont care. It might not seem fair but thats F1 for you.
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Old 16 Mar 2013, 10:21 (Ref:3219338)   #93
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Not that much different at a V8SC meeting for support categories.

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Not that much different at a V8SC meeting for support categories.

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Seen that a lot of times of the last few years.
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that's why they're called the support categories, they just piggybacking.
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it seems a good idea , well up until the point they make a rule about it.

noticed it at clipsal also (as you did)



If I am not mistaken the HRT cars also do it and have done for a long time.
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If I am not mistaken the HRT cars also do it and have done for a long time.
ah ok, didnt notice them
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F1 doesnt move, everyone moves for F1.

F1's start date for quali in the morning and the race itself wont change at all, everyone else that was supposed to run tomorow will be at the mercy of that and if V8s get cancelled/shortened, V8SC can kick and scream all they want but FIA wont care. It might not seem fair but thats F1 for you.
I'm sure the V8 team owners will console themselves by still receiving their full appearance money and not having burn up more equipment and tyres.

I'm tipping others further down the pecking order will get cancelled/shortened to make way for F1 qualifying. As everyone should, afterall it is the F1 grand prix.
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