BTCC Round Six, Knockhill 30-31 Jul, Races 16,17&18 - Page 4

Evantra · 30 Jul 2022, 21:13 (Ref:4121053)

To be taken with a pinch of salt, but Plato alluding to a potential two driver race in the future. 2:45ish

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CON6X_FqRlk

pimmy · 30 Jul 2022, 23:52 (Ref:4121075)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

To be taken with a pinch of salt, but Plato alluding to a potential two driver race in the future. 2:45ish

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CON6X_FqRlk

Well the Tourist Trophy isn't currently being awarded, so perfect time to reinstate it perhaps? Either that or bring back the Donington 500 as a BTCC race.

S griffin · 31 Jul 2022, 06:58 (Ref:4121105)

Great lap by Hill to put himself on pole. Beemers looking good, as to be expected. Tingram has a bit of work to do, but he isn't too far down the grid

crmalcolm · 31 Jul 2022, 11:05 (Ref:4121150)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

what a disaster for Cook , only 14th on this procession track

Why so dramatic?

Cook qualified 16th at Donington.
Sutton qualified 18th at Brands.
Hill qualified 15th at Oulton.
Cook qualified 20th at Croft.

I wouldn't say any of their seasons is now suffering from disaster - it is Sunday when points are won.

Yes, it will be a challenge from the lower points places, but this is BTCC and anything can happen. Who knows, maybe those ahead of him will succumb to the fragile toe-link that is so loved?

porsche962fan · 31 Jul 2022, 11:10 (Ref:4121151)

Morgan starts from rear

crmalcolm · 31 Jul 2022, 11:23 (Ref:4121152)

BMWs seem to like the taste of Ford rear bumper...

Robshillito1990 · 31 Jul 2022, 11:25 (Ref:4121153)

Bmw touring car championship ??

crmalcolm · 31 Jul 2022, 11:30 (Ref:4121156)

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Originally Posted by Robshillito1990

Bmw touring car championship ??

The championship standings say otherwise....

porsche962fan · 31 Jul 2022, 11:40 (Ref:4121159)

Turkington moved to 2nd just 7 points behind Tingram

Tingram 205
Turkington 198
Cook 193
Sutton 189
Hill 177

Evantra · 31 Jul 2022, 11:40 (Ref:4121160)

Chaotic race! Great between Ash & Jake, bar the lock-up!

Wonder what happened to Cook, assume he was tagged round.

Craner Curves · 31 Jul 2022, 11:44 (Ref:4121161)

Well that was an exciting race. No doubt Porsche962fan will complain about no contact and not enough drivers being injured etc, but it was a good battle.

Akrapovic · 31 Jul 2022, 11:44 (Ref:4121162)

Brilliant race that. Really enjoyed that one.

crmalcolm · 31 Jul 2022, 11:47 (Ref:4121163)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Well that was an exciting race. No doubt Porsche962fan will complain about no contact and not enough drivers being injured etc, but it was a good battle.

It's a procession track - so not expecting much to happen anyway.

porsche962fan · 31 Jul 2022, 11:50 (Ref:4121164)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Well that was an exciting race. No doubt Porsche962fan will complain about no contact and not enough drivers being injured etc, but it was a good battle.

wow I got so much under your skin? awesome

porsche962fan · 31 Jul 2022, 11:51 (Ref:4121165)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

It's a procession track - so not expecting much to happen anyway.

if you take away the BMW from this race then nothing that much did happen

Evantra · 31 Jul 2022, 11:56 (Ref:4121166)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

if you take away the BMW from this race then nothing that much did happen

But... the BMWs were in the race!

There's something on about hedgehogs on the next channel over, may be more exciting for you!

porsche962fan · 31 Jul 2022, 12:00 (Ref:4121167)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

But... the BMWs were in the race!

There's something on about hedgehogs on the next channel over, may be more exciting for you!

you need a lot of work to reach mal's levels of passive agressive subtility

crmalcolm · 31 Jul 2022, 12:09 (Ref:4121169)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

if you take away the BMW from this race then nothing that much did happen

And that's the argument for BTCC being a poor product - 'if you take away the cars that were involved with what happened in the race, you're left with not much happening'?

crmalcolm · 31 Jul 2022, 12:11 (Ref:4121170)

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Originally Posted by Evantra

There's something on about hedgehogs on the next channel over, may be more exciting for you!

It's a bit like ITV4's film this afternoon sometimes....

porsche962fan · 31 Jul 2022, 12:13 (Ref:4121171)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

And that's the argument for BTCC being a poor product - 'if you take away the cars that were involved with what happened in the race, you're left with not much happening'?

you do a strawman again

this weekend is different circumstance because for some reasons BMW got thier mojo back but under normal circumstances it would have been again a procession

Millvi · 31 Jul 2022, 12:16 (Ref:4121172)

An excellent race 1. And if there was no BMWs out there it would’ve been Sutton and Dan Cam and Ingram and a couple of Corollas out front and still good watching I’d wager.

A pretty awful weekend so far for BTC Racing. Seemed to be contact for all 3 cars that contributed to the poor results. But why can’t they get that M-Sport engine to work for them?

porsche962fan · 31 Jul 2022, 12:18 (Ref:4121174)

Toyotas have the same engine and they don't seem to have performance issues

Millvi · 31 Jul 2022, 12:21 (Ref:4121175)

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Originally Posted by porsche962fan

Toyotas have the same engine and they don't seem to have performance issues

I’m well aware of that. Anyone got any ideas as to why BTC Racing are struggling so much with it?

Jon411 · 31 Jul 2022, 12:30 (Ref:4121176)

Is it just a case of people taking more notice of BTC due to them being right up front in the title fight or are Speedworks for whatever reason not having the same issues.

Both Honda teams (regardless of engine) were not really where I would have expected them to be yesterday but Shedden is looking a lot stronger today... is there also an element of the other teams/ cars having caught up in the areas where the Civic was traditionally stronger (in the same way the BMW 1-Series went backwards in the last few years) maybe also?

BTCC frog · 31 Jul 2022, 12:33 (Ref:4121177)

I think I have said before that my favourite type of BTCC race is one where the race leader is somewhat slower than those behind but is doing everything they can to stay in front (such as Plato here in 2016), and that is exactly what we had in the opening laps here with Sutton putting up a fantastic defence, and that pass back on Jake Hill was just beautiful. It is a shame it didn’t last longer, but that race was the best since Brands Hatch Indy, and hopefully we will have a repeat in the second but where Sutton is able to hold on for longer and perhaps the likes of Ingram and Shedden get more involved. It’s a shame I won’t be able to watch the last two races until next week.

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