Renault Dismiss Flav and Pat or Oh dear… Here comes trouble - Page 40

Super Hans · 25 Sep 2009, 10:14 (Ref:2547888)

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Originally Posted by Down F0rce

Autosport has a pic of one of the cars:

Reminded me of this:

Rgms320 · 25 Sep 2009, 10:14 (Ref:2547890)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

This is rather pathetic, I suppose the word humble does not exist in his vocabulary ..

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78843

"In the end I will win and, you'll see, we'll have a great party. It will be organized well and we'll invite all those people who have stayed close to me during these tough times."

"Briatore! Table for four for Briatore!"

"Good evening, Mr. Briatore. I'm Manuel, your waiter. Will you be dining by yourself this evening?"

Rgms320 · 25 Sep 2009, 10:17 (Ref:2547892)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

Reminded me of this:

LOL, SuperHans!

What kind of a Google search turned that up?

jab · 25 Sep 2009, 11:30 (Ref:2547930)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Werent there a couple of Minardi sponsors in the Stoddart era that didnt pay... he didnt take the brand off the car, instead putting a "No Smoking" ring around and thru the brand instead

And they lost Wilux sponsorship after they took all the logos off in tribute to John Walton - 2004, I think

Ferrari ran without sponsorship at Monza in 2001 as a mark of respect to 9/11 victims

**GTRMagic** · 25 Sep 2009, 11:37 (Ref:2547937)

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Originally Posted by jab

And they lost Wilux sponsorship after they took all the logos off in tribute to John Walton - 2004, I think

Ferrari ran without sponsorship at Monza in 2001 as a mark of respect to 9/11 victims

Its was Stryker wasnt it? The medical devices people?

**GTRMagic** · 25 Sep 2009, 11:57 (Ref:2547945)

The team, drivers etc still have ING logos on their gear

**BertMk2** · 25 Sep 2009, 12:04 (Ref:2547948)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The team, drivers etc still have ING logos on their gear

Not surprising really - stickers are easy to take off the cars but the embroidery on the overalls is another matter!

Down F0rce · 25 Sep 2009, 12:05 (Ref:2547949)

They could always get patched to cover them up though. I remember something like this happening in Spa '99, where the teams had to cover up all the tobacco sponsor logos they didn't know they weren't allowed.

Marbot · 25 Sep 2009, 12:17 (Ref:2547953)

Renault: "We're walking through fire".

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/0...atest-setback/

henk4 · 25 Sep 2009, 12:17 (Ref:2547955)

In the mean time, Grosjean has crashed heavily. Where? In Singapore of course...

Marbot · 25 Sep 2009, 12:23 (Ref:2547958)

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Originally Posted by henk4

In the mean time, Grosjean has crashed heavily.

Compared to Piquet's 'crash' it was pathetic.This driver has no place in F1.

Fox89 · 25 Sep 2009, 12:29 (Ref:2547961)

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Originally Posted by henk4

In the mean time, Grosjean has crashed heavily. Where? In Singapore of course...

The 2nd Renault driver in the wall at the exit of turn 17? Never?

ECW Dan Selby · 25 Sep 2009, 12:34 (Ref:2547965)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Compared to Piquet's 'crash' it was pathetic.This driver has no place in F1.

He certainly hasn't set the world alight he has...

Although in fairness, the guy's ill. I can't imagine hurtling an F1 car around a street track is too much fun with food poisoning...

Selby

Razor · 25 Sep 2009, 12:43 (Ref:2547970)

Welcome to the Twilight Zone......

davyboy · 25 Sep 2009, 12:49 (Ref:2547973)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Renault: "We're walking through fire".

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2009/0...atest-setback/

Having read this piece by James Allen, I'm even further aghast at why Renault haven't pulled the plug. What's more they want to go back to the 'Renault Way'. As we all know, that was absolutely disastrous back in the early 1980s and evidential proof that a large car company can only be successful in F1 when it allows the team to run autonomously. Renault seem to be completely rudderless and I feel its only a matter of time before Carlos Goshn calls time on this brand-damaging shambles.

Razor · 25 Sep 2009, 12:53 (Ref:2547975)

I could imagine the last time Piquet Jr and Flav talked:

Nelshino: "I've done far worse than embarrass you. I've hurt you. And I wish to go on hurting you. I shall leave you as you left me, as you left your diginity: marooned for all eternity away from the track...for life. For Life."
Flav: PIQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTT!!!! (echos)

Mekola · 25 Sep 2009, 14:02 (Ref:2548002)

Sad to see that almost-unbranded Renault F1 car...

**ghinzani** · 25 Sep 2009, 16:17 (Ref:2548056)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Having read this piece by James Allen, I'm even further aghast at why Renault haven't pulled the plug. What's more they want to go back to the 'Renault Way'. As we all know, that was absolutely disastrous back in the early 1980s and evidential proof that a large car company can only be successful in F1 when it allows the team to run autonomously. Renault seem to be completely rudderless and I feel its only a matter of time before Carlos Goshn calls time on this brand-damaging shambles.

Bring back Gerard Toth! Didint the head of Renault get assassinated around that time? I personally loved the 85 renault livery though... bring that back for sure!

Mr V · 25 Sep 2009, 17:47 (Ref:2548120)

Watching FP1 on TV this morning, the commentator (not Ant, the other one) mentioned that, while he wasn't going to say the name on TV, it now seem's to be common knowledge how whistleblower X is.

ECW Dan Selby · 25 Sep 2009, 17:48 (Ref:2548123)

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Originally Posted by Razor

I could imagine the last time Piquet Jr and Flav talked:

Nelshino: "I've done far worse than embarrass you. I've hurt you. And I wish to go on hurting you. I shall leave you as you left me, as you left your diginity: marooned for all eternity away from the track...for life. For Life."
Flav: PIQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTT!!!! (echos)

lmfaooo

Selby

jab · 25 Sep 2009, 17:54 (Ref:2548133)

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Originally Posted by Mr V

Watching FP1 on TV this morning, the commentator (not Ant, the other one) mentioned that, while he wasn't going to say the name on TV, it now seem's to be common knowledge how whistleblower X is.

Doesn't surprise me. Nothing stays secret in F1 for long

duke_toaster · 25 Sep 2009, 18:06 (Ref:2548136)

Permaine? Let's put it this way, it sort of puts him in a better light than most people even though no-one's coming out smelling of roses.

paddy · 25 Sep 2009, 18:49 (Ref:2548173)

It seems to me that this whole episode shows that people in F1 set themselves very low standards of personal behaviour and consistently fail to reach them.

ljakse · 25 Sep 2009, 20:35 (Ref:2548261)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Having read this piece by James Allen, I'm even further aghast at why Renault haven't pulled the plug. What's more they want to go back to the 'Renault Way'. As we all know, that was absolutely disastrous back in the early 1980s and evidential proof that a large car company can only be successful in F1 when it allows the team to run autonomously. Renault seem to be completely rudderless and I feel its only a matter of time before Carlos Goshn calls time on this brand-damaging shambles.

But, what would running away do to their brand? Ever since this 'gate' came to light, I was sure that if they're not thrown out, they would stay. I even think that they would have paid significant fine if they were required, and still stayed.
What can be more damaging to the brand than this was? And if they simply ran away, it would have been worse.

And, I think that Carlos Goshn was all in for staying. He became famous by getting to Nissan when it was in deep trouble, turned is upside-down, and made it strong and healthy. I know automotive industry and F1 are not the same, but the problem and expected result are.

Al Weyman · 25 Sep 2009, 20:38 (Ref:2548264)

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Santander
Marlboro
Vodafone
Virgin
Red Bull.......

Thats 5 and Virgin are obviously not putting in the full required amount by the size of the stickers and all of them were in before this latest debacle, I wouldnt be surprized to see more jump ship now! Marlboro can't surely can they as they sell cigarettes and Santander would probably have gone the same way as ING if Lewis and the team had not found some form.

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