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Also, there's a claim that the TS050 is overweight per the regs. I doubt that they lost weight on the engine end just due to the added parts associated with a turbocharged engine. |
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4 May 2016, 22:11 (Ref:3638588) | #10377 | |||
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4 May 2016, 22:33 (Ref:3638591) | #10378 | |
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Let's hope it's at least fast because that is one ugly car.
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4 May 2016, 22:40 (Ref:3638594) | #10379 | ||
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I'm an Audi fan, but there's a line from the film Predator that sums up how I think those blunt front fenders look, even with sound aero reasoning backing up their use...
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4 May 2016, 22:57 (Ref:3638604) | #10380 | ||
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4 May 2016, 23:13 (Ref:3638608) | #10381 | ||
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Also, since EoT is basically BoP the way I remember it, not being competitive would make the ACO readjust the regs so that you get a slightly higher allowance. And as you say, Audi is alone in the diesel class, so all that reflects and affects them. So I don't think they are playing the rules. They just have not been winning. |
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4 May 2016, 23:31 (Ref:3638611) | #10382 | |
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You can make a small diesel, but will it have the same power and torque? Won't the whole point of using a diesel be gone? First step is to start using a small diesel, and the next step is to start using a small petrol with 8MJ ERS. Then we'll have the variety we've been looking for all along
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5 May 2016, 02:58 (Ref:3638655) | #10383 | ||
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On the r18, this aero package is extremely ugly. But hopefully for Audi, it works. |
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5 May 2016, 06:33 (Ref:3638683) | #10384 | ||
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Hope I'm wrong and we will see some tight racing, but I'm afraid it will not be the case. |
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5 May 2016, 09:09 (Ref:3638721) | #10385 | |
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I agree with you there. I wish all 3 were close in pace for the enjoyment of the viewers but I fear that Audi will walk away from it's rivals, with this one. They won't have trouble recovering their allocated energy here and the setup is likely better refined by now and, on top of all that, this LD package could make them dominant, unfortunately.
edit: audi sport's twitter has been/will be a little annoying this weekend because of DTM. At least there is currently a 70% preference of the WEC, among voters, so that should indicate them to post less about DTM and more about WEC https://twitter.com/Audi__Sport/stat...08051085991936 Last edited by Artur; 5 May 2016 at 09:19. |
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5 May 2016, 09:34 (Ref:3638725) | #10387 | |
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It'se 24 hour race, they haven't had this few cars entered in 10 years, and Silverstone + winter testing showed they have bad reliability issues. So the pace may not matter, even if it's LM Special as suggested. I would say their chances for winning the big one are the worst since 2009-2010.
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5 May 2016, 14:35 (Ref:3638796) | #10388 | |||
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Oh the reliability.... |
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5 May 2016, 14:43 (Ref:3638799) | #10389 | |
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Few years ago such things would have been unheard of in this camp. Certainly when they mean withdrawing from whole sessions Porsche is rubbing their hands together for LM. |
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5 May 2016, 14:52 (Ref:3638805) | #10390 | |
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Audi reliabilty has really fallen hasn't it?
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5 May 2016, 15:02 (Ref:3638812) | #10391 | |
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and the speed doesn't look too good either, thus far.
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5 May 2016, 15:18 (Ref:3638823) | #10392 | |
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Misc problems in winter testing. Including out of the blue fire that destroyed a monocoque. At Silverstone retiring car due to complete hybrid failure - that says all when in the past they've climbed mountains to bring half destroyed cars wrecks or seemingly nonresponding systems to circuit and semi-respectable positions. Then other car disqualified for failed tech scrutineering. Now sessions missed for other component failures.
Add to that no 3rd (or 4th) bullets in the gun, and the high chances for crashes http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....postcount=9655 As I said, speed may not actually matter at LM, even if they magically had 908 speeds. The fat lady may have stopped singing. |
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5 May 2016, 15:20 (Ref:3638825) | #10393 | ||
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I would say Audi has a sick looking car, but I'm not sure how competitive it is at this point, both in pace and reliability. |
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5 May 2016, 15:43 (Ref:3638832) | #10394 | ||
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but pace doesn't look good either at this point. the car is marginally quicker than last year in sectors 1 & 3, but a whole lot slower in sector 2, as far as what we've seen so far. top speed is lower so far. i really don't understand what the guys at audi are doing right now, IF they're not sandbagging. but the reliability issues are really worrying. |
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5 May 2016, 15:51 (Ref:3638839) | #10396 | |
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i still hope they're sandbagging. for some reason, both audi and porsche are much slower than last year in sector 2, which makes even less sense for porsche, who are now running interim aero as opposed to the LD setup of last year. but at least porsche have the overall lap times, as well as the bulletproof reliability.
oh and by the way, audi are currently slower than toyota were last year... |
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5 May 2016, 15:57 (Ref:3638841) | #10397 | ||
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Even if Audi are sandbagging or just not going for maximum times, the reliability, especially for the #8 (two hybrid/front drive issues two weekends in a row) is disconcerting.
Granted, it seems so far that everyone, at least also Porsche, are much slower in sector 2 than last year. That's to be expected for aero packages that aren't far removed at all from their LM aero. However, I'm starting to worry if this new car is a gamble that won't pay off for Audi, at least until later this year or next season. I'm even starting to wonder if Audi Sport would have better luck moving away from Joest and doing everything in house like Porsche and Toyota are, even though Joest Racing in a lot of ways is just the name on the ownership slip. I know that they won on the road at Silverstone and they've had delays in testing as far as setting up the car and such, so that give me some confidence that things will get better. But with the exception of 2009, I can't remember Audi having such a difficult time testing and developing a car. |
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5 May 2016, 15:59 (Ref:3638842) | #10398 | ||
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Also, I don't think that the Porsche is bullet proof, considering that they're pushing their cars harder than last year and they had quite a few reliabity issues in the sprint races, including Bahrain where they nearly lost the drivers' title.
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5 May 2016, 16:02 (Ref:3638844) | #10399 | ||
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Sir, this is highly irrational. |
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5 May 2016, 16:06 (Ref:3638846) | #10400 | ||
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I know it is, but with the issues of the past year or two, Audi Sport need a big shake up on the LMP side if you ask me.
Having not officially won a race in nearly a year, the aero kit blunder mid season last year, and having Porsche constantly beat them to the punch in the races where they had the speed to rival Porsche, something has to change. I do wonder if even we'll see Ullrich Baretzky getting his wish to develop a gasoline engine for next season at this rate. Either Audi are sandbagging/holding back big time, or they're in trouble. Maybe they should've also brought the sprint bodykit and at least tested them back to back like Porsche did at Fuji last year. |
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