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Don't let the post fool you, VIVA is renowned on this board as something of an Alonso fanatic.
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We're accusing him of being involved. The FIA does not have the legal powers of investigation that the authorities have and can only rely on information given voluntarily. That proof of Alonso's involvement was not presented to them, does not mean it doesn't exist. It could also mean that Fernando Alonso has managed to successfully evade detection... which is not all that difficult given the circumstances.
If you're completely satisfied that Alonso had no involvement whatsoever, then no problem. That's your perogative. For me, and quite a lot of others, the FIA process couldn't answer that question satisfactorily. Significant doubt prevails. |
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1.Alonso's car is extremely fast in free practice and quali. 2.His car has a fuel problem in quali 2, putting him out of qualifying. 3.The team submit, to the FIA, his fuel load for the race on saturday afternoon. 4.The now, imfamous discussion takes place about 30 minutes before the race, which is proberbly about 20 hours after the team submitted his fuel load. So, are we saying the the decision was taken to crash Piquet (dispite him apparently not knowing about it) the day before? Maybe it is possible, but no one, that includes Flav, Pat, Jnr, or Alan Permane have actually come out and said that Alonso was aware of the decision, so where is our proof? |
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Piquet took down people who screwed him. Alonso did nothing to him. Who knows, maybe they are friends. I can see many reasons why Piquet would NOT bring Alono into it.
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obviously he is content to say he didnt know and leave it at that. but now that it is accepted that the event was tampered with, no explanation of what he thought at the time of a low fuel stint from that far back on the grid, no contrition after finding out what happened, and no attempt to distance himself from his tainted win does little by way of convincing me that he is innocent here. for what its worth i would be willing to accept his innocence here if he just gave back the trophy and asked for the win to be taken of his record. |
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If I was overseeing an operation as sensitive as fixing a race, I'd be damned sure each participant knew only as much as required to carry it off, possibly putting a false trail or two, in order to limit damage from exposure. I suspect we will never really know what really went down, unless Flav takes some inspiration from OJ's "If I did it"
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For me, Alsono is innocent (until proven otherwise) and had no direct involvement. It's not the first time a car has started super light hoping to cash in on a possible SC period.
Under Bernie's medal plan, this whole affair could be a normality... |
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Hmm, this doesn't bode too well for Entente Cordiale between team mates at ferrari next yer does it?
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[QUOTE=JABWOA;2551599]For me, Alsono is innocent (until proven otherwise) and had no direct involvement. It's not the first time a car has started super light hoping to cash in on a possible SC period.
Below is the weight of each car following qualifying for the Singapore Grand Prix, sorted by qualifying position. Pos Driver Weight (kg) 1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 660.5 2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 651.0 3. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 657.5 4. Webber Red Bull-Renault 654.5 5. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 655.5 6. Alonso Renault 658.0 7. Glock Toyota 660.5 8. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 650.0 9. Kubica BMW-Sauber 664.0 10. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 664.5 11. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 680.7 12. Button Brawn-Mercedes 683.0 13. Raikkonen Ferrari 680.5 14. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 678.0 15. Trulli Toyota 690.9 16. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 693.0 17. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 683.5 18. Fisichella Ferrari 678.5 19. Grosjean Renault 683.0 20. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 656.0 Not only Alonso starts wiyh not much fuel from the back... |
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