ALMS 2010 Discussion - Page 44

MJ_N_09 · 18 Dec 2009, 02:44 (Ref:2601709)

Wow, this is a different 2010 ALMS entry list from when I looked last.

prototype · 18 Dec 2009, 02:53 (Ref:2601711)

I think the Vettes have some work cut out for them with the smaller engine and no DI. The tires (tyres) will be better this year however. Don't give them team Championship just yet.

picchiofan · 18 Dec 2009, 03:43 (Ref:2601719)

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/sports/aut...-shutting-down

Anyone still holding out for DeFerren, I think you can exhale now.

Jonerz · 18 Dec 2009, 04:18 (Ref:2601721)

Interesting to note, two Porsche drivers in that team in Cosmo and van Overbeek. Plus a graduate from Porsche's Patron Challenge - will Orbit run in GTC without Patron backing?

I am ecstatic for Guy, one of the greatest guys in the paddock, an incredible shoe, and an example of someone who has done all the right things in life getting a little payoff! I would have liked to have seen Guy partner with Scott in the lead car, but Ed and Guy have a relationship, so it is understandable.

To me this announcement begs the question, how did I not see Guy as a natural fit on this team? Honestly. Anyways, very cool stuff for Guy, and hopefully van Overbeek uses this as an opportunity to win some races and remind everyone that he is a competitive driver.

It will be hard not to cheer for this team in 2010. Vehement supporters of the ALMS, great personalities, a fantastic exhaust note, Patron girls, what more can you ask for?

Chris

WMUCarGuy · 18 Dec 2009, 04:59 (Ref:2601726)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonerz

Interesting to note, two Porsche drivers in that team in Cosmo and van Overbeek. Plus a graduate from Porsche's Patron Challenge - will Orbit run in GTC without Patron backing?

I am ecstatic for Guy, one of the greatest guys in the paddock, an incredible shoe, and an example of someone who has done all the right things in life getting a little payoff! I would have liked to have seen Guy partner with Scott in the lead car, but Ed and Guy have a relationship, so it is understandable.

To me this announcement begs the question, how did I not see Guy as a natural fit on this team? Honestly. Anyways, very cool stuff for Guy, and hopefully van Overbeek uses this as an opportunity to win some races and remind everyone that he is a competitive driver.

It will be hard not to cheer for this team in 2010. Vehement supporters of the ALMS, great personalities, a fantastic exhaust note, Patron girls, what more can you ask for?

Chris

Cosmo was in a Cup car last year, but I'd hardly call him a Porsche guy. He'll drive anything he can.

The Badger · 18 Dec 2009, 06:28 (Ref:2601741)

Quote:

Originally Posted by picchiofan

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/sports/aut...-shutting-down

Anyone still holding out for DeFerren, I think you can exhale now.

Thats sad news indeed .....

isynge · 18 Dec 2009, 11:59 (Ref:2601848)

As a possible antidote to the tide of bad news, Marshall Pruett's floating the rumour of a second Cytosport RS Spyder.

Link

I was impressed by Cytosport's approach with the RS Spyder, showing their a good pair of hands for the car, and you could see the wider VAG family thinking that a beefed up Cytosport lineup with some works support (a couple of very fast drivers for example) could actually give Peugeot the race Audi might have.

Obviously I've no intentions of counting chickens, but it's a nice prospect.

dxk1 · 18 Dec 2009, 14:00 (Ref:2601906)

Quote:

Originally Posted by isynge

As a possible antidote to the tide of bad news, Marshall Pruett's floating the rumour of a second Cytosport RS Spyder.

Link

I was impressed by Cytosport's approach with the RS Spyder, showing their a good pair of hands for the car, and you could see the wider VAG family thinking that a beefed up Cytosport lineup with some works support (a couple of very fast drivers for example) could actually give Peugeot the race Audi might have.

Obviously I've no intentions of counting chickens, but it's a nice prospect.

This could be really great if they come up with a top pairing (say Maasen and someone similar) in the second car and keep Graf and Pickett in the first car. Somewhere in this I smell Porsche setting themselves up for a P1 run in the future. The RS Spyder, with a few upgrades (or downgrades depending on how you look at it) to the new rules is potentially one of the best P1 cars when the new rules take hold completely. I know this has all been hashed around before, but with the latest comments from Porsche regarding a potential future return to P1 & Le Mans, it just seems possible.

DK

NightStalk3r · 18 Dec 2009, 14:17 (Ref:2601912)

Quote:

Originally Posted by isynge

As a possible antidote to the tide of bad news, Marshall Pruett's floating the rumour of a second Cytosport RS Spyder.

Link

I was impressed by Cytosport's approach with the RS Spyder, showing their a good pair of hands for the car, and you could see the wider VAG family thinking that a beefed up Cytosport lineup with some works support (a couple of very fast drivers for example) could actually give Peugeot the race Audi might have.

Obviously I've no intentions of counting chickens, but it's a nice prospect.

I heard this from someone last night aswell, i've also heard the names Dumas and Bernhard associated with it.

Speed-King · 18 Dec 2009, 14:31 (Ref:2601917)

By 2011 the RS Spyder will be a six year old design - I doubt that Porsche would start with anything other than a completely new car tailormade for the new rules.

The Badger · 18 Dec 2009, 14:42 (Ref:2601921)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

I heard this from someone last night aswell, i've also heard the names Dumas and Bernhard associated with it.

I'd like to see marc Lieb get a drive in it ..... as he was the main development driver .

Maassen is I believe , out of the facrory squad now ?

NightStalk3r · 18 Dec 2009, 15:28 (Ref:2601931)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

I'd like to see marc Lieb get a drive in it ..... as he was the main development driver .

Maassen is I believe , out of the factory squad now ?

Lieb is doing LMS and is one of Porsche's top GT drivers, i wouldnt expect to see him in the RS Spyder any time soon, as for Maassen from what i have been told his contract is up at the end of this year and is not being renewed

Jonerz · 18 Dec 2009, 15:31 (Ref:2601934)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

Cosmo was in a Cup car last year, but I'd hardly call him a Porsche guy. He'll drive anything he can.

While he is not exclusive to Porsche, a lot of the work he does outside of the ALMS is in Porsches.

Chris

Tim Northcutt · 18 Dec 2009, 15:33 (Ref:2601937)

Speaking of Marshall Pruett's "rumors," he also floated one about hearing that Fernandez Racing might be back...

Sorry, wrong rumor, Marshall...

Yesterday, Bryan Herta's Indy Lights team announced that they are moving into new race shops for 2010..the shop that was the HQ for...you guessed it...Fernandez Racing.

Kinda tough to make a comeback and compete if you don't even have a shop as a base of operations anymore, isn't it?

WMUCarGuy · 18 Dec 2009, 16:14 (Ref:2601968)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

I'd like to see marc Lieb get a drive in it ..... as he was the main development driver .

Maassen is I believe , out of the facrory squad now ?

Maassen was the development driver for the RS Spyder if I remember correctly.

tkelland · 18 Dec 2009, 17:21 (Ref:2601988)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

Maassen was the development driver for the RS Spyder if I remember correctly.

Yep. Maassen and Lucas Luhr before Lucas defected to the four rings.

R4z3rw33n · 18 Dec 2009, 17:32 (Ref:2601993)

If Porsche were interested in allowing Cytosport to run a second Spyder, wouldn't it more likely be a proven pairing (i.e. Dumas/Bernhard)?

tkelland · 18 Dec 2009, 19:20 (Ref:2602058)

Quote:

Originally Posted by R4z3rw33n

If Porsche were interested in allowing Cytosport to run a second Spyder, wouldn't it more likely be a proven pairing (i.e. Dumas/Bernhard)?

My guess is that if Porsche places a second RS Spyder with Cytosport, the pairings would be: 6 Klaus Graff, Greg Picket, with Sascha Maassen for enduro's. 7 Romain Dumas, Timo Bernhard, with Emanuelle Collard for enduro's.

If Cytosport would take a Porsche to LM24, it would be Graff and Pickett with Maassen as Romain and Timo will be likely with Audi again.

NightStalk3r · 18 Dec 2009, 20:17 (Ref:2602090)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkelland

My guess is that if Porsche places a second RS Spyder with Cytosport, the pairings would be: 6 Klaus Graff, Greg Picket, with Sascha Maassen for enduro's. 7 Romain Dumas, Timo Bernhard, with Emanuelle Collard for enduro's.

If Cytosport would take a Porsche to LM24, it would be Graff and Pickett with Maassen as Romain and Timo will be likely with Audi again.

Well see about that in January

HORNDAWG · 18 Dec 2009, 20:33 (Ref:2602093)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkelland

My guess is that if Porsche places a second RS Spyder with Cytosport, the pairings would be: 6 Klaus Graff, Greg Picket, with Sascha Maassen for enduro's. 7 Romain Dumas, Timo Bernhard, with Emanuelle Collard for enduro's.

If Cytosport would take a Porsche to LM24, it would be Graff and Pickett with Maassen as Romain and Timo will be likely with Audi again.

This seems very plausible, if Porsche/Cytosport decide to run a 2nd car.

L.P.

WMUCarGuy · 18 Dec 2009, 22:07 (Ref:2602147)

Do we have any ideas what numbers the 2 ESM Ferraris will be?

chernaudi · 18 Dec 2009, 22:19 (Ref:2602153)

And Porsche has stated that the only team that'll offically recive support from the factory for the RS Spyder is Cytosport-but how many cars...that wasn't stated.

Wonder is Porsche is willing to support Cytosport as a two car effort perhaps to give Timo and Romain something to do when they're not driving for Audi in the IC/LM? After all, Dumas and Bernhard have had the most success in the Spyder and know that car like the back of their hands.

But I wonder if they have to run the 1.6 wing for the Porsche to be eligable for the ALMS-they'll have to for LM, as well as any front/rear bodywork changes that the ACO has requested for the cars in 2010.

MJ_N_09 · 19 Dec 2009, 06:55 (Ref:2602242)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

Do we have any ideas what numbers the 2 ESM Ferraris will be?

The 9 will likely be retained (ESM is a branch of Highcroft is it not?). Maybe the 10 will be the 2nd one.

MJ_N_09 · 19 Dec 2009, 06:58 (Ref:2602245)

Quote:

Originally Posted by picchiofan

http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/sports/aut...-shutting-down

Anyone still holding out for DeFerren, I think you can exhale now.

It just gets better and better doesn't it? *sigh* How many full time teams are left?

ger80 · 19 Dec 2009, 09:43 (Ref:2602276)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chernaudi

And Porsche has stated that the only team that'll offically recive support from the factory for the RS Spyder is Cytosport-but how many cars...that wasn't stated.

Wonder is Porsche is willing to support Cytosport as a two car effort perhaps to give Timo and Romain something to do when they're not driving for Audi in the IC/LM? After all, Dumas and Bernhard have had the most success in the Spyder and know that car like the back of their hands.

But I wonder if they have to run the 1.6 wing for the Porsche to be eligable for the ALMS-they'll have to for LM, as well as any front/rear bodywork changes that the ACO has requested for the cars in 2010.

The RS Spyder in on the rear bodywork waiver list, so they dont have to change that

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