USCC (leave your axe outside) - Page 44

Canada ALMS fan · 22 May 2013, 18:49 (Ref:3251799)

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Originally Posted by nkoske

That's fine...as long as the future DPs bare no resemblance to the current ones.

Agree 100%.

Breitling24 · 22 May 2013, 18:54 (Ref:3251802)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

Agree 100%.

Yep, if they become true "prototypes."

CyberMotor · 22 May 2013, 19:30 (Ref:3251813)

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Originally Posted by nkoske

That's fine...as long as the future DPs bare no resemblance to the current ones.

+1

trickyd · 22 May 2013, 19:54 (Ref:3251824)

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Originally Posted by Breitling24

Next: DP's start at Le Mans.

In an ideal world it would be good if the ACO and USCR could come up with a one size fits all prototype that can run in P1 and P2 like Lola have done in the past. So in theory HPD could build a car and for P1 put in the Honda F1 engine and a hybrid system, but for the US, or P2, take those out and put a stock based engine in it. Maybe the P2's could have standard EMS' and wings, or something like that. Then you could have the US teams able to compete at Le Mans, and the manufacturers able to enter the big US races if they wanted. It might be total pie in the sky, but at least they appear to be getting along. It would also be nice if they came to an agreement whereby Sebring was in the WEC!

HORNDAWG · 22 May 2013, 20:02 (Ref:3251831)

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Originally Posted by nkoske

That's fine...as long as the future DPs bare no resemblance to the current ones.

I believe you will be sadly disappointed then!

L.P.

nkoske · 22 May 2013, 20:13 (Ref:3251845)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I believe you will be sadly disappointed then!

Wouldn't be the first time

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HORNDAWG · 22 May 2013, 20:21 (Ref:3251849)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

2016 USCR 'P' class & 2016 ACO P-2 ....

sorta.

I'm telling you, I really think this could very well be revisted by the ACO, with the inclusion of the USCR.

L.P.

Ken_T · 22 May 2013, 20:41 (Ref:3251858)

This just in....

DPs will be included at Lemans, however, Mike Shank demands they be the top class with no required mods. All others shall be slowed!

outamyhead · 22 May 2013, 20:56 (Ref:3251863)

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Originally Posted by Ken_T

This just in....

DPs will be included at Lemans, however, Mike Shank demands they be the top class with no required mods. All others shall be slowed!

FIA/ACO will laugh and then say no.

BrentJackson · 22 May 2013, 21:26 (Ref:3251879)

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Originally Posted by outamyhead

FIA/ACO will laugh and then say no.

And they'd be right to. But I think those that don't like the idea of DPs at La Sarthe in a similar form to now are gonna be really disappointed. Maybe they get included in the P2 class in 2014, perhaps?

TRspitfirefan · 22 May 2013, 23:06 (Ref:3251903)

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Originally Posted by BrentJackson

And they'd be right to. But I think those that don't like the idea of DPs at La Sarthe in a similar form to now are gonna be really disappointed. Maybe they get included in the P2 class in 2014, perhaps?

I don't think most of us will mind too much, as long as the DP's are not the premier class and there's still room for plenty of GTE and LMP1 cars.

CyberMotor · 23 May 2013, 00:49 (Ref:3251934)

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Originally Posted by TRspitfirefan

I don't think most of us will mind too much, as long as the DP's are not the premier class and there's still room for plenty of GTE and LMP1 cars.

And, the LMP1 cars get to run at Daytona. DPs at Le Mans and LMP1 at Daytona. Fair is fair.

Breitling24 · 23 May 2013, 01:02 (Ref:3251938)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

And, the LMP1 cars get to run at Daytona. DPs at Le Mans and LMP1 at Daytona. Fair is fair.

Absolutely!

Mechanic Z · 23 May 2013, 01:17 (Ref:3251946)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

And, the LMP1 cars get to run at Daytona. DPs at Le Mans and LMP1 at Daytona. Fair is fair.

+1!

dxk1 · 23 May 2013, 01:19 (Ref:3251948)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

And, the LMP1 cars get to run at Daytona. DPs at Le Mans and LMP1 at Daytona. Fair is fair.

I agree, fair is fair, but do you think the likes of Mike Shank et al will let that happen?

DK

**joeb** · 23 May 2013, 01:46 (Ref:3251964)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

And, the LMP1 cars get to run at Daytona. DPs at Le Mans and LMP1 at Daytona. Fair is fair.

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Originally Posted by dxk1

I agree, fair is fair, but do you think the likes of Mike Shank et al will let that happen?

DK

ahh, fair is indeed not fair in this case. Allowing DP's at le mans will likely do little harm. The overall winners will still be in P1.

Allowing P1's at Daytona will cause a major ruckus (from lots of people not just Shank) because the P1's would be favorites for overall victory. Telling teams they don't have a shot at overall victory in their own series' race will not sit well.

dxk1 · 23 May 2013, 01:48 (Ref:3251967)

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Originally Posted by joeb

ahh, fair is indeed not fair in this case. Allowing DP's at le mans will likely do little harm. The overall winners will still be in P1.

Allowing P1's at Daytona will cause a major ruckus (from lots of people not just Shank) because the P1's would be favorites for overall victory. Telling teams they don't have a shot at overall victory in their own series' race will not sit well.

Exactamundo!

DK

Lagunaseca_4life · 23 May 2013, 01:59 (Ref:3251973)

can it really be called their series anymore? as i see it uscr will be GTLM's series, thats the only reason this buy out happened to get the tracks and ALMS GT,if dp was to be the premier class then it would need no change and every one would be slowed, i dont see that happening. every one needs to admit GTLM is pretty much whats going to keep uscr from initially failing if no one jumps ship.

Canada ALMS fan · 23 May 2013, 02:18 (Ref:3251979)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

And, the LMP1 cars get to run at Daytona. DPs at Le Mans and LMP1 at Daytona. Fair is fair.

Agreed.

Canada ALMS fan · 23 May 2013, 02:19 (Ref:3251980)

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Originally Posted by dxk1

I agree, fair is fair, but do you think the likes of Mike Shank et al will let that happen?

DK

Even though Mike thinks he's a big deal, it's not his call.

HORNDAWG · 23 May 2013, 02:45 (Ref:3251988)

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Originally Posted by joeb

ahh, fair is indeed not fair in this case. Allowing DP's at le mans will likely do little harm. The overall winners will still be in P1.

Allowing P1's at Daytona will cause a major ruckus (from lots of people not just Shank) because the P1's would be favorites for overall victory. Telling teams they don't have a shot at overall victory in their own series' race will not sit well.

Yep!

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 23 May 2013, 02:52 (Ref:3251989)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

Even though Mike thinks he's a big deal, it's not his call.

Sorry, I think that it would be most teams that will be running in the USCR's 'P' class who would have something to say about being supplanted at one of, if not the, premier race(s) of the new series.

L.P.

Lagunaseca_4life · 23 May 2013, 03:17 (Ref:3251994)

For one race out of the year I'm sure some Audi,Porsche , Toyota "P" money would ignore what the smaller dps want, didnt they want to bring daytona back to it international glory, can't do that with dps and slowed p2's as the top class.

HORNDAWG · 23 May 2013, 04:00 (Ref:3252000)

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Originally Posted by Lagunaseca_4life

For one race out of the year I'm sure some Audi,Porsche , Toyota "P" money would ignore what the smaller dps want, didnt they want to bring daytona back to it international glory, can't do that with dps and slowed p2's as the top class.

L.P.

TF110 · 23 May 2013, 06:20 (Ref:3252031)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

L.P.

So the 24 this year was a huge draw?

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