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12 Jun 2005, 19:22 (Ref:1326553)
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No Tomato. They are not screwing with his car on purpose. Simply put, they just don't give a damn about him and his car - no matter what they say in public about it.
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12 Jun 2005, 19:30 (Ref:1326573)
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I take it you didn't see Alonso retire then?
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12 Jun 2005, 19:32 (Ref:1326577)
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I'm sure they do care really, I mean with Renault's new 'Big Guy' questioning their participation in F1, does a double DNF look like money well spent?
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12 Jun 2005, 19:33 (Ref:1326578)
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Didn't he hit the wall? |
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12 Jun 2005, 19:34 (Ref:1326583)
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And your point is?
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12 Jun 2005, 19:35 (Ref:1326586)
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I'm asking if he had a tech problem that you know of.
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12 Jun 2005, 19:37 (Ref:1326593)
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No, but then again a team wouldn't jeopardise points because you never know if the other car will finish. (I rest my case).
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12 Jun 2005, 19:38 (Ref:1326597)
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And they got exactly what they deserved today. I rest mine.
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12 Jun 2005, 19:41 (Ref:1326601)
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On another tack. Why was Fisi 1.5 secs slower than Alonso? As anounced by the pit radio.
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12 Jun 2005, 19:41 (Ref:1326604)
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It really is freaky that Fisi retired when Fernando was pouting on the radio about Fisi holding him up.....
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12 Jun 2005, 19:42 (Ref:1326608)
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Perhaps because he was losing hydraulic pressure or different fuel loads? Dunno.
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12 Jun 2005, 19:44 (Ref:1326611)
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Fisi retired again, loss of hydraulic pressure.
Well Fisi has his own engineering crew, Alonso has his. Renault supply the engines equally to both cars. Now you through in Flavio who controls certain aspects of the team. Where does Flavio biulding engines, Flavio making adjustments to Fisi's car come in?? So you yell and scream technical bias for what? What do you have to proove your case with. Yes Flavio likes Alonso better, yes Alonso is better, yes Alonso is number 1 on the racetrack. But where does this difference in technical treatment come in? Because he has retired with failures? Look at the rest of the field, its happening to them too. If you going to have a whinge, at least show some evidence. |
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12 Jun 2005, 19:46 (Ref:1326613)
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Evidence? The retirements speak for themselves. Those are facts. Claims like "Alonso is better" "Flavio likes Alonso better"... THOSE are baseless arguments.
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12 Jun 2005, 19:47 (Ref:1326615)
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No conspiracy here - a simple technical problem.
They wouldn't deliberately cause Fisi to retire - because then McLaren would win the constructors title |
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12 Jun 2005, 19:48 (Ref:1326618)
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Alonso is better Inigo. And I, as a rule, like Fisi.
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12 Jun 2005, 19:50 (Ref:1326619)
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[QUOTE=Inigo Montoya]And they got exactly what they deserved today.
QuOTE] No, I can't buy this either, Inigo. There is far too much at stake. |
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12 Jun 2005, 19:54 (Ref:1326629)
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If you look back at my other posts, the amount of technical failures prooves nothing. Look at McLaren 2004-Kimi 8 technical retirements--DC 2. Now Kimi is clearly a number 1 in that team, but he suffered horribly technical issues. Now bla bla Kimi is getting ripped off.... Well that is what you are basing your argument on, just because Fisi has more failures means he is been given a second rate car, and nobody cars about him etc etc. Thats a joke, you have no evidence, you have no proof, applying precedent to your argument prooves that this is no indication of favourable technical equiptment. And since that is what you base your argument on, you dont have much to go on. Look Fisi might drive well for portions of the grandprix but even without technical issues he is no WC. |
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12 Jun 2005, 19:55 (Ref:1326635)
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What is so difficult to buy? There is no conspiracy. Ferrari has had a number one driver for years. And now so does Renault.
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12 Jun 2005, 19:56 (Ref:1326637)
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Because he retired, that makes him a number 2? :confused:
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12 Jun 2005, 19:56 (Ref:1326639)
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What kind of proof do you want Oaksnaf? I can no more prove substandard machinery than you can disprove it. So lets just drop it. |
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12 Jun 2005, 19:58 (Ref:1326641)
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No he's number two because he is far behind the team leader in the championship.
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12 Jun 2005, 20:01 (Ref:1326645)
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But aside from that. Fisi will have a tough few GP's ahead of him. Poor qual at INDY-same with Alonso-which could result in mid pack scrambles, and especialy the way these Renaults shoot off the line, i would hate to be sitting behind a bogged down Webber---a different meaning of launch control would come into mind. |
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12 Jun 2005, 20:02 (Ref:1326646)
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I can't see how Renault would want a car to break down. I mean, I don't think they want to lose the constructors championship.
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12 Jun 2005, 20:07 (Ref:1326657)
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