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Old 22 Nov 2005, 10:50 (Ref:1467271)   #101
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..... It will be a great contest to see who's hybrid is better, Zytek's or Creation's.
I would suggest their respective resources/budgets will be the most telling factor.


PS I think we should get back on topic or move this discussion to the 2006 LMES thread before we provoke the wrath of Aysedasi........
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Old 22 Nov 2005, 11:45 (Ref:1467346)   #102
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Fulll report on the R10 launch on Globecast 907, just got my invite to the gig this morning


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Old 22 Nov 2005, 12:00 (Ref:1467359)   #103
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what hour .. is it available online ?
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Old 22 Nov 2005, 12:06 (Ref:1467365)   #104
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I'll post an interim report as soon as I can after the launch and there will be an extended report on the 'Midweek Motorsport' show (wednesday 20.00-22.00 Uk time)directly after the launch.

Globecast is available 27-7 live via Sky Channel 907 at www.radiolemans.com & www.yoursportradio.com - music and features all day. Major shows and features are available for podcast downloads via iTunes (search podcasts for Globecast or radio le mans) or if you haven't got iTunes software then try one of the podcast access sites like www.podcast.net

this weeks show live from the MX-5 Launch in Cornwall plus motorsport as usual



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Old 22 Nov 2005, 12:24 (Ref:1467384)   #105
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Will the R10 be on show in Essen at the motorshow on friday ? Hindy, maybe you can find that out.
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Old 22 Nov 2005, 13:03 (Ref:1467430)   #106
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Will the R10 be on show in Essen at the motorshow on friday ? Hindy, maybe you can find that out.
I wouldn´t expect the AUDI LMP1 in publicity before december, 13th
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Old 22 Nov 2005, 13:05 (Ref:1467433)   #107
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i believe that the paris event is the debut of - car

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Old 23 Nov 2005, 06:24 (Ref:1468050)   #108
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will the R10 be open or closed top?
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Old 23 Nov 2005, 12:06 (Ref:1468239)   #109
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will the R10 be open or closed top?
On that point I personally haven't found anyone willing to say anything publically...
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Old 23 Nov 2005, 12:22 (Ref:1468249)   #110
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dos a closed top car have that a big advantage aerodynamically over an open one or is it marginal? and, how much more (just an idea) can a closed top car weight against an open one?
Suppose it should be difficult to answer, suppose it depends on the cars, but any estimations? Whay would you prefer a closed top against an open one?
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One not very scientific reason is that these days, closed top prototypes seem to engender more positive vibes. People liked the Bentley for the name and also because it looked wonderful (and different to all the open top LMPs). The R8 was a great car but didn't really excite people, a closed top R10 may prove more popular as well as successful.

On the same argument, a closed top looks just a little more like a road car than an open top, and at the end of the day for Audi it is all about selling more cars.

(After all that I expect another ruthlessly efficient and slighly boring open top!)
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Old 23 Nov 2005, 13:47 (Ref:1468335)   #112
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What about a large greenhouse, but open at the top to keep the cockpit cool?

Pescarolo apparently tried this out.
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that opening would afect aerodynamics, I believe...
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Old 23 Nov 2005, 14:48 (Ref:1468391)   #114
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Yes, badly effect aerodynamics. The benefit of the open top is the frontal area reduction. The closed top has a lower .cd. So to create an opening in your closed top roof does away with its inherent advantage.

At this point though I'm not sure there is much to choose from closed to open top. From a marketing standpoint you're right, I'd go with a closed top car.
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Old 23 Nov 2005, 15:01 (Ref:1468407)   #115
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Yes, badly effect aerodynamics. The benefit of the open top is the frontal area reduction. The closed top has a lower .cd. So to create an opening in your closed top roof does away with its inherent advantage.

At this point though I'm not sure there is much to choose from closed to open top. From a marketing standpoint you're right, I'd go with a closed top car.

Your point is well-taken, Mike....and in my mind, it answers a question I had about the Spyker when I first saw it at Sebring last March...
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As far as overall weight, it would not be an issue for closed top, or open top, they would be the same.
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Old 23 Nov 2005, 15:50 (Ref:1468435)   #117
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Open and closed-top LMPs now have the same tire width/restrictor regs correct?
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Old 23 Nov 2005, 16:04 (Ref:1468444)   #118
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Open and closed-top LMPs now have the same tire width/restrictor regs correct?
Correct.
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Hopefully it is closed. Reminds me just so much more of the glory Group C days.
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ok, so if the weight difference is minimal and the tire width/restrictor regs are equal for open and closed cars, then the only advantage to having a closed car is the aerodynamics.

Which is why i'm predicting the R10 will be a closed topped car.
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This is a good read. And Peter Elleray addresses the positives and negatives of a coupe.

http://www.mulsannescorner.com/lmpelleray.html
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If winning Le Mans is the major goal for the new Audi, then closed-top would be the obvious choice in my mind. However, with definite competitive aspirations in the ALMS' sprint races, an open-top could be a viable option again.
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http://www.podcast.net/show/85444

Theres a feature on the R8 and R10 on Globecast 907.

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Will the R10 be on show in Essen at the motorshow on friday ? Hindy, maybe you can find that out.
Definetly i can say you that only one AUDI R8 was at the MotorSHow and the only interesting at Volkswagen was the annoucement of the new Dakar project...
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Definetly i can say you that only one AUDI R8 was at the MotorSHow and the only interesting at Volkswagen was the annoucement of the new Dakar project...
The Dakar project is of course no secret at all.
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