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Found some conflicting reports about it when the GT500/DTM merger was announced:
"While ITR had been in negotiations with GRAND-AM on prospects of launching a U.S.-based DTM series, it's believed those talks have subsided." from the speed article announcing the DTM/SuperGT rules merge: http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...t-join-forces/ "The USA has a key part to play in the deal between the Japanese and German firms with a Grand Am tie up still on the cards. “Grand-Am has said that it will run stand alone races for us if we can find a way to get the cars there and make it work, so with six car makers now it becomes much easier, and with a common chassis maybe an american firm could join in and make a car as well” Ulrich enthused." from RCE: http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...e-regulations/ |
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Well, that's kinda sucks now that DTM won't be coming to the USA. Maybe in the next few years, the ITR would be supporting Trans-Am instead by shoving their ruleset to that series!
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There was an interesting discussion about the topic and unification in silhouette racing on the latest shakedown from the drive network.
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We should rename this thread to "Looks like happening in 2015 or 2016!"
So the merged championship will focus in endurance racing. That means, I'd rename it Rolex Endurance Championship. This allows some races to be dropped. My Rolex Touring Car Championship schedule: Long Beach Barber Detroit Watkins Glen Mosport Trois-Rivières Sears Point Baltimore Austin Road Atlanta Then the Rolex Endurance Championship would be: Daytona Sebring Lime Rock Watkins Glen Mosport Mid-Ohio Road America Austin Laguna Seca Road Atlanta Anyway, wouldn't it be easier to just buy the SCCA World Challenge? |
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Came here because of that article. A good read, looks like Dr. Ullrich is pushing for this to happen, and I hope it does as well.
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I'm not 100% convinced it will come off, but I believe Nascar wants to tap into manufacturer money that is never going to make an appearance in their stock car racing series. So this is a way to do it.
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I'm far from asking it, I'm just wondering whay are they following the longer, more expensive route.
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11 Mar 2013, 03:33 (Ref:3216872) | #111 | ||
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DTMUSA should just be Trans-Am...
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http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...-itr-agreement
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This is basically a different approach for ITR. Instead of trying to create an International Touring Car Championship (look how well that went at the end of '96) they're going to create regional markets.
I wonder where this could be a decade from now... |
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strong regional series could give rise to a strong world championship or maybe getting entries into the WEC/Le Mans.
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I'm worried that there's still too many North American sports car championships> USR, Conti Challenge, SCCA World Challenge, now this... With so many options, efforts get dilluted.
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The difference between DTM America and the other existing series is that there are six manufacturers' marketing prowess behind it.
I suppose US race teams will have to buy/lease cars from the manufacturers to run them in DTM America. But they might get help from the North American dealers/importers. |
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I think teams in the first years will get strong backings from the manufacturers, atleast Audi and BMW that will probably run factory teams.
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With the US deal on the table that might be a matter of time though. Would make sense for Cadillac to make the move from SCCA as well.
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Not just for Cadillac, but for GM as a whole. They could run Opels in DTM, while running whatever GM brand is known in SuperGT. GM may have problems in Europe, but they'll have to start to do some investments, in order to break out of the vicious cycle.
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Maybe a Camaro would be good in Super GT, I think. Then again, NASCAR should buy Trans-Am and turn into DTM USA from SCCA.
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I really don't see this making any sense at all, and can't understand the logic of Grand-Am on this (unless they aren't having to put up any of the money).
DTM is not cheap, nor is SuperGT. As it stands, no one from SuperGT has committed to anything, only the DTM guys. I cannot see how a series with no previous North American history, requiring GT/Prototype/Indycar/Nationwide level budgets is going to succeed unless BMW, Audi and Mercedes plan on paying for the cars, operating budgets, TV time and other fees. There are plenty of other struggling road racing series in North America with no traction with the public. I don't see one more making a difference. Not to mention, DTM fundamentally lacks the key component of successful touring car racing: on-track action. The technical rules are so woefully incompetent that they are introducing DRS to create some passing. How will a North American audience with more entertaing choices find the time to watch this series? It makes no sense. Grand-Am/NASCAR would be better off either running a sprint series with GT cars, or a road racing series using Sprint Cup cars. Both would have a much higher chance of being successful. |
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