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22 Oct 2017, 20:48 (Ref:3775684) | #101 | |
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Useless FIA.
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22 Oct 2017, 20:49 (Ref:3775685) | #102 | |
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Put grass and gravel there if you don't want them overtaking with skill. If the powers that be really want F1 to return to racing, why keep DRS but penalise ingenious overtaking?
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Note that Kimi was the only driver who didn't pit, and he was passed by both of the drivers that pitted. Vettel would have been a sitting duck for Verstappen at the end. |
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went for pee and max demoted to 4th, what the hell are they playing at an absolute joke IMHO
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22 Oct 2017, 20:52 (Ref:3775688) | #105 | |
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Whatever, at this point, Max's talent is undeniable. Doesn't need FIA gratification. A missed podium here or there, he still started 17th and passed up to P3.
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He could only make the move stick because he went off track. The marshalls really had no choice.
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22 Oct 2017, 20:54 (Ref:3775690) | #107 | |
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Red Bull should have either waited 1 lap so the undercut would,ve worked or keep going. Both cases he would've been 2nd before Vettel.
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They all ran wide in various corners, but Max was the only one to cut a corner to overtake.
Slam dunk penalty ... unfortunately. Though his smile when leaving the podium room, suggests that he knew he had done it and was bang to rights. |
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I think he smiled in contempt.
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22 Oct 2017, 20:56 (Ref:3775693) | #110 | |
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I’m watching this in German. I don’t speak German. Why did Vettel stop a 2nd time? Made the end a bit close! The commentators here don’t appear to agree with the verstappen penalty either. Or the Ericsson one.
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Its difficult. We complain about bad driving and the need to keep within track limits. Yes an awesome passing effort but ultimately he took too much off track. Sad but it was a great effort.
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Perhaps they should put an armco there for next year then...? If you give the drivers tarmac, why would they not use it?
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The stewards made this decision, but what do we want? Some fans complain of people driving off track. Others (?) complain that we lose this overtake.. We could have massive kerbs, or walls, but we wouldn't have seen that move either and it would be more dangerous. Tell the FIA what you actually want. Except that won't help, because we can't tell them for definitively. |
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Well would have given that race high points but that penalty ruined it and shows how the powers to be need to learn what entertainment should be, silly introductions and then penalising several good overtaking incidents shows how out of touch they are with pure racing
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For reference, if you'd do that in club racing here in the U.K. You'd be pinged for it.
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I think because they knew that to stay on their existing strategy meant no chance of catching Lewis.
To change covered off Verstappen (just) and could possibly force Mercedes to respond, at which point they'd hope for an undercut as they nearly had after the first stop. Overall, it looks like a good decision - didn't weaken their finish and could have improved it. |
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I noted that one of the stewards is from Finland and has driven for Ferrari in the past, Iassume he was outside the stewards room door when the Verstappen decision was made.
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So Salo only made his decision because he was biased? He isn't the only one involved and it is most likely it was a decision that would have been made whoever was involved.
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