[WEC Race] 2021 6 Hours of Monza

[Ferrari333SP]

Originally Posted by bentley speed 8

But is that an easy fix?

Not sure; what they can maybe improve is how long it takes to change the brakes themselves, even if they might not be able to improve much how much ware the brakes take

[Ferrari333SP]

Dumas is now back out

[Bentley03]

Originally Posted by bentley speed 8

But is that an easy fix?

Nishy reckons not, at least not in time for Le Mans.

I've seen nobody charging round a pit garage as fast as that SCG technician since Pascal spotted Pirro at the back of the Drayson Racing garage during our pit visit!

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Ferrari333SP

Fuuuuuuuuu, Glick is changing the brakes now

It was an exciting 10 minutes for the Glick squad!

[WyldStallion]

Yeah its going to take more than that to put Toyota away. But I feel better about the potential of a non-Toyota Le Mans winner now. Whether it is Alpine, Glickenaus or the LMP2 winner.

Dang GTE is boring this year. I miss the Super Season so much because of that. GTE Pro was the feature class of the series in at Le Mans in 2018 and 2019. Feel off so quickly. Le Mans will be good with Corvette, Weathertech, and HubAuto coming in. Corvette C8 has disapointed in WEC so far. At Le Mans they will be contending though. I still pick Corvette to win LM24 this year.

[WyldStallion]

I like that this category has shown fragility. Makes it more interesting for this year and 2022 at least. Warning to the Hypercar teams....I bet LMDH cars are going to be bullet proof though just like DPI.

[Ferrari333SP]

I'm mainly looking forward to the day when GT3 cars take over as the main GT category at LeMans

[WyldStallion]

Can the Glickenhaus beat the LMP2 winner by the end of the race?

[XtC24]

No, because there is LMP2 Class and there is United Class. They are again high above anybody else in LMP2. It is kind of uncool.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by XtC24

No, because there is LMP2 Class and there is United Class. They are again high above anybody else in LMP2. It is kind of uncool.

Not sure why that is uncool, but no the Glick can't make up 50 seconds in under 20 minutes.

[canaglia]

united is a rebellion-tier top private team, I wouldn't be surprised if they have also some former mclaren f1 personnel in their payroll. Have to be honest, portimao and spa have been better races, the only thing I'm sure so far is that none between toyota and glickenhaus looks really prepared and reliable for a 24H race unlike bulletproof alpine and oreca 07 top teams.

[Pandamasque]

I expect, United will be among the first to step up into the top class. Maybe even with a works programme.

[ChrisB10]

Originally Posted by Pandamasque

I expect, United will be among the first to step up into the top class. Maybe even with a works programme.

Would be great to see, but with what car?

They're not a manufacturer, and I can't imagine that they want to do like Alpine and buy and old chassis. They could try to run a works team on behalf of a factory backed entry, but they don't have any history of that so it will be a tough one to enter.

[canaglia]

Originally Posted by ChrisB10

Would be great to see, but with what car?

They're not a manufacturer, and I can't imagine that they want to do like Alpine and buy and old chassis. They could try to run a works team on behalf of a factory backed entry, but they don't have any history of that so it will be a tough one to enter.

united autosport is zak brown (mclaren racing CEO) weekend hobby.

[WyldStallion]

Originally Posted by canaglia

united autosport is zak brown (mclaren racing CEO) weekend hobby.

McLaren seems like a company that is perfect for the hypercar concept.

[Pandamasque]

Originally Posted by ChrisB10

Would be great to see, but with what car?

Any LMDh, if McLaren isn't giving them one. Reports suggested that Penske beat them to the Porsche works gig.

Or they could of course commission a pair of SCG 007 for next year... Either way it's an investment.

[canaglia]

mclaren evaluating a sportscars program has become a meme of recent motorsport...
the sad truth is that mclaren can do only what the bahrain property allows them to do -> no money supplied for lmdh/lmh = no lmdh/lmh program.

[bella]

Originally Posted by XtC24

No, because there is LMP2 Class and there is United Class. They are again high above anybody else in LMP2. It is kind of uncool.

true, but only in wec. they aren't unbeatable. i think the elms p2 field is stronger this season.

[GT6]

good race and enjoyed close racing in all categories, roll on le mans, and fingers crossed i will be there to watch it

[J Jay]

Originally Posted by bella

true, but only in wec. they aren't unbeatable. i think the elms p2 field is stronger this season.

This, and United's ELMS squad are (relatively) weaker, both on track and in the garage. Compare the fortunes of United and WRT in the two series, for instance.

[Mike E]

Thoughts on Monza:

I really enjoyed that race. Competitive racing throughout and plenty of drama. Barely a mention of the dreaded track limits either because THE TRACK HAS LIMITS.

One of the things I enjoy doing as an endurance racing fan is watching quick cars recover back through the field after a setback. It's another storyline with an uncertain outcome. Looks like there could be a bit of that at Le Mans...

All three hypercars are in the planned performance window. But Toyota and Glickenhaus still have new car niggles. For Le Mans they have strength in numbers. Alpine have good reliability from their well proven car, but only one bullet in the gun. Looking forward to seeing how that plays out.

If you were a wealthy Am driver, in P2 or GTE, thinking about stepping up to hypercars, the Glickenhaus would be an interesting option. On the pace and mechanically straightforward - no hybrid and two wheel drive. It would be cool to see another one on the grid taking on the big boys.

[Pandamasque]

It'd be cool if SCG 007 became the privateer's weapon of choice in the coming years. Kind of like Lola used to be. It even looks a bit like the T70.

Originally Posted by Mike E

Thoughts on Monza:

I really enjoyed that race. Competitive racing throughout and plenty of drama. Barely a mention of the dreaded track limits either because THE TRACK HAS LIMITS.

Good point. Expect at Parabolica, but that's somehow only a factor in F1.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by Mike E

All three hypercars are in the planned performance window.

Certainly are.

In Q it looked like Toyota - Alpine - Glickenhaus. Although in the race there are hints that the Glickenhaus seemed to be closer across a stint (difficult to be sure).

Edit: Alpine’s relatively slower race pace was because they were lifting and coasting a lot.

[Gingers4Justice]

I feel that the various trials and tribulations with the new Hypercars, combined with the fuel tank issue, decides Alpine's LM strategy for them.

Lift and coast, take few risks in traffic, wait for the race to come to you. Especially with just one car.

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by Gingers4Justice

I feel that the various trials and tribulations with the new Hypercars, combined with the fuel tank issue, decides Alpine's LM strategy for them.

Lift and coast, take few risks in traffic, wait for the race to come to you. Especially with just one car.

Makes perfect sense. A John Wyer inspired run. Drivers race to a laptime, don't pay heed to what the others are doing and wait and see....