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27 Mar 2017, 12:35 (Ref:3721854) | #101 | |||
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27 Mar 2017, 13:18 (Ref:3721866) | #102 | ||
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The world feed is controlled by FOM.
Maybe Mr E took the widget that made the graphics work when they kicked him out! |
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27 Mar 2017, 13:42 (Ref:3721872) | #103 | |
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Giovinazzi vs Stroll showed us the difference between a mediocre and a very good F1 driver.
Fortunately for Giovinazzi, Ricardo Gelael was willing to fund his junior series expenses for 5 years, otherwise he'd be in Italian GT right now... |
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27 Mar 2017, 14:13 (Ref:3721876) | #104 | |||
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i watched a recording so i didnt have the live timing screen up and the lack of on screen graphics meant i really couldn't tell where he was in terms of lap times compared to Massa...need to see more races before i judge his place on the grid. |
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27 Mar 2017, 15:06 (Ref:3721883) | #105 | |||
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27 Mar 2017, 15:07 (Ref:3721884) | #106 | |
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The nbcsn crew is great, but man do they wear out cliches. Steve matchett at least once during qualifying and at least once every race has to say "push like there's no tomorrow". It is really annoying at this point.
They asked each other whether they thought bottas would make a run at Hamilton, and I think matchett said he didn't think he would. That even if he could, he wouldn't risk upsetting team dynamics so early. From around 20 laps to go down to about 7, bottas was closing pretty fast on Hamilton. Then he got to within 1.8 seconds and sat there and eventually dropped to a steady 2.2 seconds behind for several laps. I think he backed off so as to not challenge Hamilton. It's unfortunate, because I think he could have had a run on him. Good job by him, but I really don't want him to be stuck in a #2 role if he proves he can compete. Glad to see a team able to take the fight to Mercedes. Was weird seeing Mercedes flub the strategy and Ferrari actually get it right for a change. Stroll is the first young driver that has come in lately that I can actually feel good about rooting against. I also think wherlein is getting a little too much criticism. Unless it's a team thing behind the scenes, it had to be tough for him to let someone else come in and possibly steal his ride eventually. Its not like wherlein is secure on the grid at this point. I kind of think he's going to be real good. Verstappen was funny asking about the fast lap late in the race. Like he was bored finishing 5th so he wanted to play around at the end. Showing his age a little bit and it's fun. Also fun to hear Hamilton say he can't pass the guy. That's a compliment to Verstappen imo. |
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27 Mar 2017, 16:25 (Ref:3721901) | #107 | ||
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Massa did a 1.28.045 on lap 49 Stroll fastest was 1.29.389 on lap 38 I am sure someone can account for the extra fuel load and give us a more accurate comparison! |
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27 Mar 2017, 17:39 (Ref:3721917) | #108 | |||
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obviously a difficult job to do but fair to say from that Stroll was a long way off of what Massa was able to extract from the car? totally a side note but the lack of on screen data for the race got me thinking how much importance i get out of those graphics but was also finding myself wondering why not much has changed over the years in the types of raw data they offer. although i did like how they were breaking up the sectors into 200m(?) sections during quali. but i would like to see more advanced analytics/data (as this is becoming the norm for other sports) and the ability to use and manipulate that data to compare different drivers. i do think some of these features may be available through the F1 website via a subscription live data feed. |
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27 Mar 2017, 17:55 (Ref:3721920) | #109 | ||
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They have dropped all the live gear / speed / rev data again too.
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27 Mar 2017, 18:01 (Ref:3721922) | #110 | |
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Speaking of graphics, anyone else enjoy the new sector graphics during quali?
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27 Mar 2017, 18:06 (Ref:3721927) | #111 | |||
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yeah i liked that....would be nicer with an overlay of the track to better see exactly which parts of the tracks/which corners drivers were making their gains though...but i suppose that too is a feature one can pay for. and its not that i mind paying...i mind having to pay twice. once to my cable subscriber for the feed and once for the FOM app. two payments to complete the coverage is not really acceptable...hopefully that is something they aim to stream line |
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27 Mar 2017, 18:22 (Ref:3721935) | #112 | |
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I missed the constant race position ticker that used to run along the top of the screen
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27 Mar 2017, 19:48 (Ref:3721955) | #113 | |||
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i used to love his 'knife's edge of adhesion' cliche back when they were on the Speed Channel coverage. |
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27 Mar 2017, 21:33 (Ref:3721979) | #114 | ||
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I can't say that the lack of on-screen data was missing for me, what was missing was *racing*. Not overtaking, but close racing. |
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27 Mar 2017, 22:06 (Ref:3721987) | #115 | ||
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To be honest, I expected even less from Stroll after qualifying, so in a way he impressed me, but he has a way to go to get close to Massa. |
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28 Mar 2017, 01:06 (Ref:3722007) | #116 | |
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On that comparison, its easy to forget that Massa did not have a stellar first season either at Sauber and threw it off the road more than once. He turned out ok eventually. Didn't help that he was backing up from Kimi's rather stellar first season.
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28 Mar 2017, 03:18 (Ref:3722026) | #117 | |
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Yes he is. I haven't noticed that cliche though. What does freak me out is how often you can hear him smacking his lips. Not like he does on purpose, but like an old man thing where he's just moving his lips a little and weird noises happen. Its really subtle, but is definitely noticeable. They're really good though.
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28 Mar 2017, 12:31 (Ref:3722144) | #118 | ||
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David Hobbs is 77 years old, I hope when I am that age I am doing as well as he is ...How about you 😊
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28 Mar 2017, 12:45 (Ref:3722147) | #119 | |||
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28 Mar 2017, 13:29 (Ref:3722162) | #120 | |
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Has anyone seen what Napoleon has said? He's now saying the lack of overtaking was a price to pay for more spectacular cars. Well we might as well all watch qualifying! Ok the race for the win must have been interesting, but the wallies at the top have ruined what racing drivers are supposed to do, RACE
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28 Mar 2017, 13:58 (Ref:3722171) | #121 | ||
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Look, I'm not complaining about that crew (well, not trying to), because they're great. But they have these miniscule little things that I notice every. single. race. And to be fair, I didn't hear it as much this race. |
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28 Mar 2017, 14:55 (Ref:3722181) | #122 | |
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I will be honest, I haven't heard anything like that from Hobbs, but I wasn't listening for it either. I hope now that you pointed it out that it will not be all I hear!
Regardless... I love Hobbs and Matchett even with whatever oddities they may have. I honestly can't imagine watching F1 on TV without them given how long they have been doing F1 in the US. I have no issues with Diffey and like him, but I do miss Varsha. Buxton does a good job in the pits as well. Richard |
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28 Mar 2017, 14:59 (Ref:3722182) | #123 | ||
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no doubt there may be less overtaking this year but is it really as bad as it seems?
if Dan Ric had started from the pit lane on the first lap then i suspect he would have racked up a fair number of overtakes. if there was a safety car, as was widely suspected, then there would have been the possibility of more overtakes by drivers who found themselves out of position. and first race for the new(ish) compounds which turned out to be better than expected but a few degrees cooler and we could have easily seen more stops and more performance differences that would have led to more overtakes. and on some level we have a certain quality among the drivers who, on the aggregate, tend to make a lot less mistakes. maybe im being overly optimistic but this was maybe just an odd race. |
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28 Mar 2017, 19:13 (Ref:3722238) | #124 | |
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If there is to be overtaking we should find out at the next race in China. If there is very little overtaking there then we are in for a boring season. One thing that I noticed that cars could catch up to about 1.5 seconds to the car in front and there they sat as they appeared not to be able to get any closer.
The new cars have a bigger wake behind them as they are wider and the new cars also produce more downforce from the front wing. As a result of this we have got cars that have difficulty getting close to one another. The net result is cars not being in a position to overtake each other even with DRS. |
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28 Mar 2017, 21:16 (Ref:3722259) | #125 | ||
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many aspects of the 'aero' problem are beyond my understanding but what has me a bit more confused this year is the relationship between the new larger front wings/greater wake vs wider and more durable tires.
rather, with more mechanical downforce via wider tires which also happen to be more durable, shouldn't the negative effect of the greater wake be minimized if not neutralized? i say this because since the DRS era began and with respect to being able to follow, its not so much the wake issue which has been the problem (or the main talking point even) but the overheating and degradation rates of the following car's tires. |
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