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If the additional push to pass has to stay, limit it to one per team and draw which race it will be for from a hat - this would eliminate the possibility of 'vote rigging' for a local driver in his/her home race.
I do believe that the concept will need to be heavily promoted to non traditional audiences so not just in the local motorsport magazines but by the cities involved and more importantly, heavily, not just an A5 poster in a bus shelter put up the week before. Hopefully this will prove a success - fingers crossed. |
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17 Aug 2013, 14:45 (Ref:3291010) | #102 | |
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It's a rubbish idea. If you're not running a sport, I'm not interested in watching.
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17 Aug 2013, 15:23 (Ref:3291014) | #103 | ||
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My feelings exactly I'm afraid.
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18 Aug 2013, 19:36 (Ref:3291432) | #104 | ||
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I like the idea to shake things up, personally I think it'll go down a lot better with the more switched on younger generation than the grandad purists....
Personally I'll just end up voting for the car behind or the guy more likely to pull off an overtaking move rather than voting based on the best "personality", especially if the voting is mid-race. Idea: If the voting page is completely laden with adverts maybe that can be a way to ensure we have an advert-break free race? I'd rather have that feature in the race and maybe have it sponsored, NASCAR style, than have to miss any of the racing due to an ad-break. |
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19 Aug 2013, 00:27 (Ref:3291520) | #106 | ||
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Still think you´re underestimating the youth..
New ideas are good but I think they want sports as much as older people. |
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19 Aug 2013, 09:58 (Ref:3291650) | #107 | ||
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Yeah, I don't think all of today's youth are vacuous and shallow. There are surely ways to attract the younger demographic without sacrificing all pretence of being a sport. Hopefully the FIA will veto the stupid idea and us grandad purists (or motorsport fans) will not be alienated by a series with otherwise great potential.
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In the long run I think it's a dumb move to choose show over sport. All-star games are popular but wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for the regular series, the ROC is popular but wouldn't be anything if the drivers hadn't already got their fame in F1, DTM etc., The Harlem Globetrotters are popular but nothing like the NBA.. I think you get my point. |
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crikey, put your burning torches and pitchforks down guys!
be careful about parading the "sport" thing as an arguement against any kind of fan-influenced bonuses. arguably penalties are in the same category, so it's not just straight forward. i understand the strong dislike for any sort of voting shenanigans - surely that'd work better with grid placing - but i don't think resorting to "it's just not cricket" as a defence is a particularly good one. |
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19 Aug 2013, 10:43 (Ref:3291663) | #110 | ||
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I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean with penalties beeing in the same category?
And I'm swedish so cricket references goes right over my head |
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well, the idea of it being motor *sport*, as in, the *sport* element demands no outside intervention or artificial situations. a group or one person issuing penalties for sporting misdemeanours is arguably just as much of an intervention as fans voting for someone to have an extra boost allowance over the rest of the field. bringing in outsiders, or extending the field of play to include the stewards room or the internet... it's not really new, is it?
"it's just not cricket" is a (slightly posh, mostly southern) british expression, used for pretty much anything that isn't right, or fair. eg selling wine at a beer festival, that's just not cricket. or giving someone a parking ticket whilst they're at the machine paying for one |
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21 Aug 2013, 13:38 (Ref:3292412) | #112 | ||
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I don't know if I really agree with that but I get your point I guess.
And thanks for the explanation, doubt I'll ever use it but you never know. |
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Can one of you possibly feed me some more information lately? I'm starvin over here!! Here's what the official website has to say about Beijing: Quote:
...and also avoid the ring road highways past 3:00. |
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25 Aug 2013, 12:48 (Ref:3293718) | #114 | |
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you know, it's funny how you're hellbent on bringing the political and environmental agenda into sport anywhere but your own thread about sochi
it's a shame the series can't really encourage motorsport tourism as a part of the city races thing because gratuitous intercontinental flying kind of goes against the whole environmentally friendly ethos (have i said that already? if i have, sorry ). |
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26 Aug 2013, 20:35 (Ref:3294375) | #116 | |
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What would be a better place to launch the Formula E than China's mega polluted cities? Beijing, Shanghai, HK and so on are precisely the places where electric vehicles are most needed. It's a booming economy without any oil reserves which is the #1 producer of batteries and panels, also the government openly supports electric car development.
If you take a look at their calender, it's like a list of the most polluted cities in the world with the exception of the one in Malaysia with the strange name. |
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Of course you're right, Ivan, but you can only take it to a certain extent. If the drivers literally can't breath they are in danger of serious health complications (Nico Rosberg could have missed the Shanghai race because of the pollution there, and that was very little when compared to Beijing's regular air quality). Bangkok is smoggy, but not unbearable (unless you catch a really bad day and/or have respiratory issues), Buenos Aires the same, and Los Angeles, Berlin, and Rio maybe a little better than those two. London used to be the absolute worst in the world until they got their coal burning under control. Miami has very clean air almost all the time (the haze you get occasionally is mist off the ocean, not smog). You can easily drive and hold an event in these conditions, even if it is not a picture perfect air day in LA... But it's all up to an extent. And an AQI reading of over 1000 in Beijing (that's a bit worse than being in the middle of a forest fire) at one point is not bearable. Everyone is explicitly warned by the government not to venture outside, asthmatic or not, when the AQI is 300+. To give you an idea, a REALLY bad day in LA is 150. The worst it's ever gotten here in Dallas was 200 or so, with a summer brush fire. But this is simply not reasonable... |
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27 Aug 2013, 10:10 (Ref:3294635) | #118 | |
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Some allergic reactions can be triggered, but they can be easily controlled with medicines and most of these drivers take their health very seriously, so if you prepare yourself and stay inside air conditioned spaces, then it will be OK for them to race. I'm also allergic, but tbh pollen storms are equally dangerous. I.e. this season there was one in Barcelona.
I'm sure the drivers will be well advised and prepared. |
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with my moderator hat on this time, can i ask, nay, demand that we keep the politics, environmental and non-sporting crap elsewhere please?
this is not the daily mail comments section, your facebook timeline, or your local amnesty international branch. we discuss motorsport here. |
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excellent. the motorsport stuff is far more interesting, anyway
when are we expecting to see demo runs? it'd be fairly cool to see the random demos that red bull are so good at with a different spin and agenda. |
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In answer to your question, from April next year we plan to visit every city on the calendar and put on a roadshow/demonstration (including London). Between now and then the car has to be launched (10th Sept at Frankfurt Motor Show), crash tested to latest FIA/F1 standards and then extensively tested. The first public running of the new car is set for Jan 2014 though. Of course, there will also be various static car displays around the globe before April 2014 but not full-on roadshows. |
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1 Sep 2013, 09:00 (Ref:3297005) | #123 | |
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Anyone for a list of must be drivers?
Here is my list: Dixon, Franchiti, Andretti, Montoya, Kovaleinen, Glock, Fisichela, Massa Di Grassi, Davidson, Duval, Vernay, D'Ambrosio, Valsecchi, Mortara, Perera, Riggon, Parente, Tappy and Lancaster |
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9 Sep 2013, 15:54 (Ref:3301042) | #124 | ||
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Formula E eyes in-race dynamic recharge to replace two-car format:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109786 With the article it's said that Qualcomm signed a multi-year contract with the series. Considering the links the company has, do we might see Nelsinho Piquet back in formula cars, or the first outings of his younger brother Pedro instead??? |
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Interesting technology involved as it could have major uses in road transport, but I wonder how much it costs.
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