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Conti is based on the VW Phaeton luxo-barge. Certainly not a reworked Audi R8- from memory they were talking of using either the full-fat W12 front engine or the new smaller V8, but as 4wd not allowed ditching that and the auto box. Interestingly the development has now been contracted to Malcolm Wilson at M Sport, who at end of last year lost his deal to run works Fiesta WRC cars when Ford pulled the plug. So maybe a future in rallying as well, copying Aston's attempt a few years ago.... |
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I think it looks like a proper GT racing car. Brick-like or not it is a production car so this, the Mustang, the (stillborn?) C300 would all grace a grid if I had my way.
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Sounds familiar, just at the moment I can't place when it used to exist. Still, given that so many manufacturers (Ho Ho) seemed to be dropping a car size for "Rallying" in recent times (or have the smaller cars become bigger instead?) the idea of something like a Continental would be a welcome reversal of that trend. Mind you the idea of running it through typical British rally stages (if there are such things these days) seems a little odd. Might work quite well on those single venue airfield events I suppose. I would have thought the formerly-Dakar event could be an option for 2014 - plenty of space - although if it is still run in South America then it might be tricky taking part as a Brit company. But I guess they could just rebrand the "VW's" as usual and claim the business really has transferred to Germany. Just need to pick the right sort of camouflage print for the wraps in the publicity shots. |
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Rallying is alive and well at club level. It's just the WRC that's completely ****ed.
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Are you sure? The entries looked a little sparse for a couple of events I checked out on line a few weeks back and a couple of regular(ish) events I can think of have disappeared. Don't get me wrong, it's good to see that there are still events running at all but I do wonder if things are being held together more by shoethreads than shoestrings. |
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Well, no I'm not sure really. I know it still exists in some recognisable form, but I worry that the failure at the top is bound to filter down.
Must admit I've not exactly done much to help myself lately. Last time I went to a local rally was about 20 years ago. |
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I think entries are going to be very sparse across the board in 2013 I'm afraid, when I read that the likes of Joss Ronchetti are selling up and quite a few others I know its looking like its really starting to bite now as I have predicted, dunno where we go from here but when I also read BARC have lost 700k in 2012 it doesnt make good reading and one has to ask where do they and others go from here, too late prehaps to even lower prices and if they put them up, well they are not a food retailer or a train company we cannot do without are they, a sticky situation alround.
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Al, the market will dictate; I quote from CSCC's recent newsletter -
".... with packed grids due to strong support from all of you meant that 2012 was our most successful year to date. In 2013, our 10th. Anniversary, there will be NO increases in costs, membership fees, registration fees, and more importantly, race entry fees will remain the same". |
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'Survival of the fittest' just like any business. Some are well run, keep overheads under control, look after their customers and sell what they want to buy......
BTW wasn't all this predicted same time last year? At F1, WEC & WRC level it is different ball game.......... |
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And the year before. As said,sell what the customer wants,but under no circumstances put prices up,that is seen in so many business's. Thats when a business is in real danger of shutting down! Customers will vote with their feet.
One reason why I was so surprised with the 360,so many people said yes,we want value for money,which was the whole point in providing such a race,yet so many "yes's" didnt bother??????????? |
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Don't be surprised Terry, you'll find that when you organise anything from a booze up with a group of mates to a six hour race. Everyone says "oh that's a great idea" but probably 90% don't turn up. There'll be excuses and good reasons aplenty, but the bottom line will be only 8 people turn up. Then afterwards there will be numerous people clamouring "oh, I didn't know you were doing that, I'd have come if I had known/hadn't been xxxx-ing" but they never put their money down for next year.
Seen it loads, like I said from little things like company socials to, well, as we've found out. |
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I think like CSCC the 360 and even the V8s have bucked the trend because the advocate and in fact promote car sharing which slashes costs, others should take note and I am surprised BARC,CTCRC didn't and are staying with the traditional format that clearly is failing.
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On another point, did anyone else see the programme about Bonneville Speed Week on BBC2 last night at 10:00. I only saw the last half hour because Sarah was watching some arrant tosh on ITV, and it featured four British bike teams heading fro Bonneville.
Teams included a bunch of bikers building a 1969 Triumph Bonny in remembrance of a deceased pal, our own RickP Clio ?? With his Flower of Scotland project, and a guy who looked like he was re-enacting "The World's Fastest Indian"! There is a second part, featuring the speed week itself. The announcer didn't say when it would be, so search Radio Times (other listings magazines are available) |
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Further to the 360,I'm not surprised,it seems to be the thing with an awful lot of brits at present.[Speaking from experience I'm afraid] |
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As regards grid sizes etc, lets face it it's just like The Costas far too many houses and not enough buyers.
As Mike stated it will be a survival of the fittest. Maybe we are deluding ourselves and circuit racing is not attractive enough in the modern world to get more people in. As I have said way back on tenths, at weekends in the 60s there wasn't anything like the amount of things to do and on Sundays with nothing open the choice for me was church or Brands Hatch and seeing the vast crowds around the circuit I obviously wasn't alone. I don't think that there is a definitive answer unfortunately. |
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