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Old 22 Nov 2009, 06:42 (Ref:2586858)   #101
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im tipping there was a fluid flag at thee preceding flag point, maybe the driver just was trying to hard because of the championship presurre

how would the team know, they were not on the track.

ever heard jamie blame his team for that sort of error,
struggling with the pressure
I dont doubt Mr Davison is succumbing to pressure.. his punishment is being 2nd in the series

But Mr Holdsworth would have heard a pretty loud engine temp alarm for the lost radiator fluid....

Where is Mr Bargwanna's penalty?
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 06:42 (Ref:2586859)   #102
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Thanks to Holdsworth?
Try a previous factory pilot, T Kelly !

Noone was to blame for Davo smacking that tractor tyre, except himself, no other driver hit it, despite the coolant on the track !

I laughed when Davo tried to cover his error with a off the cuff remark that "he heard nothing from the team about the track".

Funny, your average state level racer, doesnt hear anything from his team about changed track conditions either.

Sometimes these blokes need to understand the basics of racing, to finish first, first one must finish.

Championship over, end of story, all you red sheep, HRT sooks, go and cry to mummy, and stop blaming others for the results.

Jamie hit the wall, at Surfers, all on his own, and didnt try to place it on anyone else.

That's the mark of a soon to be, back-to-back champ.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 06:49 (Ref:2586862)   #103
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retro should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridretro should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Leanne Tander is at the hospital and has a sore neck but is okay. She is being released and Garth is picking her up as soon as the press conference finishes.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 06:55 (Ref:2586864)   #104
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Leanne Tander is at the hospital and has a sore neck but is okay. She is being released and Garth is picking her up as soon as the press conference finishes.
Thanks retro, where is she at, Charlie Gardiner ?

Maybe Garth could look at your post, showing exactly what he did.

Do you have a clip of the Carrati/Tander incident yet ?
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 06:59 (Ref:2586866)   #105
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Radiator water piddled on the inside of the pit entry, all that lovely Zerex product, from the #33 car.... helped #22 hit the tractor tyre inside the pitlane
Yep, that really justifies it.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 07:02 (Ref:2586871)   #106
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Thanks retro, where is she at, Charlie Gardiner ?

Maybe Garth could look at your post, showing exactly what he did.

Do you have a clip of the Carrati/Tander incident yet ?


Yes there will be clips of Leanne's incident coming soon...there are a lot of angles to cover...

I'm watching the press conference atm.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 07:08 (Ref:2586875)   #107
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 07:18 (Ref:2586880)   #108
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will be alot of work to be done on the Kelly car by the time they return to Melbourne and get it ready for Homebush.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 07:40 (Ref:2586892)   #111
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 07:46 (Ref:2586898)   #112
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ironically its interesting that holdsworth has indirectly been involved in Jamies DNF at Indy and now Will's DNF at WA
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Championship over, end of story, all you red sheep, HRT sooks, go and cry to mummy, and stop blaming others for the results.
since the number 1 will be going on a Holden.. i don't think there will be too many tears from the red side
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ironically its interesting that holdsworth has indirectly been involved in Jamies DNF at Indy and now Will's DNF at WA
An innocent bystander yet again !

He might get lucky one day soon....
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 07:52 (Ref:2586907)   #117
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Try a previous factory pilot, T Kelly !

Noone was to blame for Davo smacking that tractor tyre, except himself, no other driver hit it, despite the coolant on the track !

I laughed when Davo tried to cover his error with a off the cuff remark that "he heard nothing from the team about the track".

Funny, your average state level racer, doesnt hear anything from his team about changed track conditions either.

Sometimes these blokes need to understand the basics of racing, to finish first, first one must finish.

Championship over, end of story, all you red sheep, HRT sooks, go and cry to mummy, and stop blaming others for the results.

Jamie hit the wall, at Surfers, all on his own, and didnt try to place it on anyone else.

That's the mark of a soon to be, back-to-back champ.
First of all, another driver did hit it (or came close to, blocking the pitlane)

2nd, This is a team sport. Part of that is the radio. Do your 'state level' racers make their own decisions when to pit, not caring what the team says? Or are you comparing apples with watermelons?

And your correct, Jamie hit the wall all on his own. There wasn't unknown fluid on the track, he just drove outside of his limits. Of course there was no way he could blame another factor. However Will can.

And in reply to the comment about holdsworth, he's at fault for the fluid being spilled all over pit entry. Not sure wtf todd was thinking parking on the racing line tho. Would have been better off staying where he was.
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Old 22 Nov 2009, 07:55 (Ref:2586910)   #118
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I dont doubt Mr Davison is succumbing to pressure.. his punishment is being 2nd in the series

But Mr Holdsworth would have heard a pretty loud engine temp alarm for the lost radiator fluid....

Where is Mr Bargwanna's penalty?
Where is Todds penalty? He smoked the bags off the racing line and put it in the middle of it. Heat of the moment or what ever stupid move.
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another safety car contiversary

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Where is Todds penalty? He smoked the bags off the racing line and put it in the middle of it. Heat of the moment or what ever stupid move.
Did you see the big ding in his door, penalty served, he DNF, there will be nothing else

but i agree with your sentiment
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really thanks to Mr Bargwanna!

Bargwanna turned Todd Lee had nowhere to go.

seriously if Bargwanna dosn't get a penalty it's shocking.
But Toddler got going and moved forward then stopped, then Holdsworth t-boned him.
So why did Todd stop for??
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A mid-race incident shaped the race outcome when Sprint Gas Racing’s Jason Bargwanna turned around Jack Daniel’s Racing’s Todd Kelly at the final turn. Kelly’s Commodore was left stranded in the middle of the track and was collected heavily by Valvoline’s Garry Rogers Motorsport.

The incident caused a mass of fluid to pour out of Holdsworth’s car, flooding the entry to pit lane. Championship contender Davison was one of the first on the scene and understeered into the tyre wall in pit lane. The Toll HRT crew sent the car out, but steering damage ultimately ruled him out. His title chances aren’t completely gone, but a maiden championship win is likely to have to wait another season …
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