No Barbagallo this year!!!!

[johnh875]

Originally Posted by RotorFan

Frustrating to watch V8 extra and hear no mention or discussion regarding this. Rick Kelly brought it up but Crompton and co conveniently ignored him. Of course we know who signs their pay cheques, but I lost respect for Crompton years ago when he stopped telling it like it is, and started towing the company line. I'd have thought it was pretty big news to cover.

Yep I noticed that & the opinion of the show dropped... Clearly it was not a major news issue in the sport!

[GTRMagic]

According to tonight's MeN, it appears that Wilson Security is threatening to withdraw from V8Supercar if the WA round is not reinstated.

The story goes from CEO Mr McMellan, Wilson Security sources part of their budget from their WA unit, and without this contribution, the sponsor is unable to participate at the level they currently enjoy



Mr McMellan suggests too that Westrac CAT, and Komatsu would likely also be similarly inclined, even though it is yet to be confirmed.

Is this real, or a way for Wilson Security to exit gracefully?

[St00ge]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

According to tonight's MeN, it appears that Wilson Security is threatening to withdraw from V8Supercar if the WA round is not reinstated.

The story goes from CEO Mr McMellan, Wilson Security sources part of their budget from their WA unit, and without this contribution, the sponsor is unable to participate at the level they currently enjoy



Mr McMellan suggests too that Westrac CAT, and Komatsu would likely also be similarly inclined, even though it is yet to be confirmed.

Is this real, or a way for Wilson Security to exit gracefully?

Sign of the things to come is my guess and about time some of the sponsors spoke up as their the ones paying for the greatest show on earth... My bet is all the "beverage" companies may voice similar threats as WA leads all other states in bourbon sales by a healthy margin so a key market for them

[dsg]

Originally Posted by St00ge

Sign of the things to come is my guess and about time some of the sponsors spoke up as their the ones paying for the greatest show on earth... My bet is all the "beverage" companies may voice similar threats as WA leads all other states in bourbon sales by a healthy margin so a key market for them

I would think many of those sales occur closer to Darwin than Perth.

[Belly13]

Is Barbagello Raceway still in talks with V8SA about the races there this year, or is it a goner?

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

According to tonight's MeN, it appears that Wilson Security is threatening to withdraw from V8Supercar if the WA round is not reinstated.

The story goes from CEO Mr McMellan, Wilson Security sources part of their budget from their WA unit, and without this contribution, the sponsor is unable to participate at the level they currently enjoy



Mr McMellan suggests too that Westrac CAT, and Komatsu would likely also be similarly inclined, even though it is yet to be confirmed.

Is this real, or a way for Wilson Security to exit gracefully?

The way Wilson Security have told it is the way it is with marketing budgets.

[GTRMagic]

Isnt Mr McMellan the CEO? You might expect that he should have discretion over marketing funds...

[Trev Campbell]

And as the CEO, he must feel that not going to WA has made the V8's a much less attractive proposition. Otherwise he wouldn't have spoken up about it. Well done TC. Making it even harder to get sponsors !!!!!!

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by Axeman444

IF the WA round doesn't go ahead, what's going to happen to the excess supply of soft tyres designated to be used solely by this round?

apologies for quoting myself, but...

QR it seems according to MeNews...

ironic that 1 race is canned, then reinstated, only to steal the tyres from another canned event...

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Isnt Mr McMellan the CEO? You might expect that he should have discretion over marketing funds...

Not my experience GTR.

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by Trev Campbell

And as the CEO, he must feel that not going to WA has made the V8's a much less attractive proposition. Otherwise he wouldn't have spoken up about it. Well done TC. Making it even harder to get sponsors !!!!!!

& reduced team budgets too Trev. The WA spend driven out of motorsport into AFL, A League or Super 15.

[snappa]

GTR in the article it states that 30 percent of their revenue comes from WA, It also states that WA is their most important market. If you were in charge of the finances would you want to turn your marketing budget away from your key market?
It is very interesting to see today that cochrane has at least admitted that WA is a very important market for the V8's and thier sponsors. Maybe a few more of the catagories major sponsors have quietly expressed concern to VESA over the dropping of WA from the series. As has been previously stated there is a LOT of differing products ( bourbon , mining equipment etc ) where WA is the most important market to advertise in due to the higher disposable incomes over here. What about companies like HSV and FPV not sure if it is still true but WA used to have the highest % per capita of ownership for HSV's and FPV's. What kind of an effect will it have to thier brand?

[TSR]

Intresting article on Speedcafe now with both Dane & the Wiggle saying the v8 needs to be racing in WA next, but?

Just can not work him the Wiggle out.

[D.R.T.]

“The West Australian manager of that venue said that he didn’t want V8 Supercars back at his track in a conversation back in October, so they can issue a press release with a bunch of lies and think that’s a good thing.

“The truth is, as a sport, we want to go to Perth. We thought we’d worked out a fair dinkum way for the next five years forward with the government and the Western Australian Sporting Car Club, but it’s been derailed, and it hasn’t been derailed by us.

Very interesting comments that will do nothing to bring peace to the bargaining table.

It seems strange and a bit of a coincidence is that this is the first time V8SA have publicly responded to the Waneroo press release and it comes on the day of reports that v8 sponsors will potentially pull the pin based on no WA round.

[peckstar]

so when are WA going to fix there crap pit lane

We went oh so close to a serious incident last time we we were there, when will they fix it

[St00ge]

Originally Posted by peckstar

so when are WA going to fix there crap pit lane

We went oh so close to a serious incident last time we we were there, when will they fix it

refresh my memory??

[peckstar]

Will Davison slammed into the pit entrance on some left over fluid from the todd kelly incident. a big tractor tyre was about all that seperated officials from the car

the 60's are over

[Fox 42]

But I bet you love turn 8 at Clipsal........

[Woolley]

Ah, right, the one where Davison didn't properly slow down under yellow flags as a result of which he went off on fluids left over from an impact caused by someone failing to slow down properly under yellow flags and hitting a stationary car.

A bit tough blaming that on the pit lane, all completely avoidable in my opinion.

[St00ge]

Oh that, I think Woolley covered it and don't remember reading about any officials being taking to hospital

[Nivola]

Peckstar mate where you at the event?

Will had a front right puncture and had no steering and that is why he ended up hitting the wall in pit lane.

This was after hitting the back of kelly's crapadore trying to avoid that accident.

The fluids are a nice excuse!

[cavvy]

Peck could not expose the hypocrisy more succinctly.

With Mr Whittaker in the new seat, VESA can mount another attack on the taxpayers purse.

At least its transparent ...

[peckstar]

thanks guys, three different interpretations of an incident which all prove the issue. the pits are a serious issue at barbagello, it doesnt matter who the car slammed into the tyre, its the fact that cars come off the race track into pit lane at speed because there is no real pit entry, the pit entry is part of the run off for the corner and cars are regularly in the pit entry as part of the race (by pit entry im referring to the part where the cars come off the track and enter the pits)

the pit lane is narrow and not suitable for a series that completes pit stops under race conditions and the pit exit is dangerous as it brings cars out in a dangerous position on the track (although this is the least of the three issues)

the pit lane is dangerous, the pit entry is dangerous and the pit exit is dangerous. they need to be fixed

I find it sad, that some people who claim to be marshalls and apparantly care about health and safety fail to see the problem at barbagello.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

I find it sad, that some people who claim to be marshalls and apparantly care about health and safety fail to see the problem at barbagello.

Or is it more sad that people create or exagerate issues to push a certain agenda?

That said, Barbagello and the WA Government has agreed to put $5million into the facility to improve the pit lane. It will be fixed and in due time however this wasn't enough for V8SA.

[peckstar]

yes they said that 6 years ago, still waiting, they also said it again 5 years ago, 4 years ago, 3 years ago, 2 years ago, 1 year ago and even 1 month ago, still waiting.

I dont need to exaggerate in this case, incidents happen multiple times each race.