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Who could forget the paper cup on the track at the second Brands meeting of 03 that setup that chaotic last lap.
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The only sour point was the group of severely underdeveloped cars at the back. Hopefully as the weeks go by they will progressively catch the rest of the field. Is in season testing banned because some of those cars desperately need it.
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I know, it was kinda surprising to see the Toyotas and Hynes' MG in the pits on regular visits. You would have thought that having 2+ years of running and development that most reliability niggles would have been resolved by now...?
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BTCC has it's way of doing things. That car was not "well back", trust me, I have experience in judging that sort of thing. BTW from my (fairly close) point of view that first safety car was redundant since 1/2 the field did not maintain the gaps & still ran past the incident at a fairly high speed. Studied the times & gaps on TSL and noticed a couple got penalties. If a safety car is deployed, speeds should be more controlled. |
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2 Apr 2014, 10:55 (Ref:3387794) | #105 | |
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Just out of interest did Hynes get a brand new car or did he have one of the old MGs and Plato got a new one?
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Power steering wasn't it?
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Do people seem to think that the RWD cars, or specifically the BMWs are likely to face a performance "sanction" after running quite comfortably at the front? In the past, BMW and Audi (with AWD) have had weight penalties placed upon them...? Obviously any penalty applied to the BMWs would have to be applied to the RAR Audis too.
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I think it's brutally unfair, I think the next two rounds we are going to see a significant straight line speed advantage for the Hondas due to their VTEC engines. Every car has it's weaknesses and the RWD cars are slow to warm their tyres.
Ironic really that the boost-parity system, that Matt Neal and co campaigned against so vocally, would have reduced some of the competitive edge of the BMWs |
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4 Apr 2014, 11:37 (Ref:3388641) | #113 | |
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Please no longer first gear!
As was mentioned in Autosport a while back, people should stop complaining about RWD start advantage, as if they have no disadvantage, when they do. Their disadvantages are they take longer for tyres to warm up, they're easier to spin around and they don't like mixed conditions Back in the 90s with the 4wd and RWD they would discuss mid series if they needed a weight break or more weight on. That worked just fine, so that's the only thing they should consider. |
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I actually think enforcing a longer first gear would be a better option than weight penalties. The gearing affects them where they really have an advantage - off the start and out of tight corners like the hairpin at Knockhill. The weight penalties on the other hand hurt them everywhere. It increases tyre wear, hurts their braking performance and of course acceleration.
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It was great watching Gio throw his car into the corners, very spectacular, though perhaps he is overdriving a touch?
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I think that neither FWD cars nor RWD cars should be penalised. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. All I'm saying is, that should TOCA decide the RWD cars have an 'unfair advantage', a longer first gear would be better than weight penalties.
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