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4 Aug 2007, 13:44 (Ref:1980553) | #101 | ||
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It's only Vettel's second day in this car and team, I think Luizzi was gonna beat him comfortably...
It was mentioned that Luizzi might head off to Williams as a tester/racer next year. Any further news on this? A year away from the limelight with an experienced team would do him good I think. He won the F3000 title hands down, he does have the talent he just needs to get it all together... |
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4 Aug 2007, 13:46 (Ref:1980556) | #102 | |
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Vettel struggled for sure, but to be expected really.
Liuzzi did appear to wake up but I hardly think this is compensation for the F1 career that preceded today! |
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There's the thing he hasn't really had one yet has he!
Mainly because he's been driving rubbish cars and overdriving them into oblivion either breaking them, crashing them and making a mess of a great talent. When he was doing regular tests for RBR 3 years ago or whatever, he looked very good indeed. I still think RBR should've signed him not DC. |
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4 Aug 2007, 14:02 (Ref:1980596) | #104 | |
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I'm no DC fan (extremely far from it!) but I'd have him over Liuzzi.
You will get some results with DC. With Liuzzi, I do not know. It depends if he can be bothered. |
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The Speed TV announcers indicated also that there would be an announcement after this weekend regarding Scott Speed's status with STR and Red Bull.
I found it really odd that they let Scott test, then relased him to bring in Vettel. It would have been fair to Vettel at least to bring him in for the test so he would at leat know where the cupholders are in the car... |
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Whilst I feel that Vettel make a fair few mistakes in qualifying, I don't think it is fair to make too many judgements on his performances given his relatively little running in the car.
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4 Aug 2007, 19:08 (Ref:1980850) | #107 | ||
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From what I've heard Liuzzi is already gone -- Liuzzi isn't running to save his career at STR, he's running to find another spot with another team -- And Vettels qualifying 20th today may just be the beginning of Scott Speed being vindicated -- Although I agree we can't judge Vettel yet it's way to early -- but at least we're getting the beginnings of an indicatian that Scott is a really good driver {he outqualified Liuzzi in his last 3 races} and that STR is a mess. I believe Vettel will get better versus Liuzzi but we don't know if he's as good as Scott or Tonio -- we do know that he's going to waste the rest of this year and the 21st year of his life with one of the worst teams in Formula 1. ---------- I hope Scott lands on his feet somewhere and that Tonio gets a chance with a real team.
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Well today Vettel was running a few seconds ahead of Liuzzi when the Italian conked (yawn, again....)
So on that basis he turned his qualy around quite impressively. I noted Brundle's ghostwritten column in 'The Sunday Times' suggesting Vettel has been good but nothing spectacular (or something) in his career to date. Brundle's always seemed a shrewd jugde of talent, even noticing ability in those who don't actually get the chance to win things. I'm not sure he's on the mark with this summary though? |
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Well Vettel hasn't exploded onto the scene exactly. So maybe Martin is right in that sense.
We shall see in due course. |
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5 Aug 2007, 15:55 (Ref:1981697) | #110 | ||
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Well, IMO, a lot of people were OTT with his Indy showing. He was respectable enough, but far from great (which a fair few seemed to think he was).
He has started his STR run well, and should, theoretically, do nowt but improve. |
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5 Aug 2007, 16:33 (Ref:1981736) | #111 | |
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It's interesting how Vettel gets lots of the attention of the german media that was directed at Sutil before. After todays race they didnt even bother to interview Sutil on german TV.
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I thought Vettel had a decent career so far, he dominated Formula BMW. He was easing ahead in the World Series up until he got this drive, and he was good at Indianapolis earlier this year. Im impressed by Vettel. Very steady drive today. We know what the car is capable of (not alot). I think he will be happy to finish his first race with Toro Rosso.
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