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gets it wrong it is his responsibility and he can be dumped. Look at how well the F1 Strategy Group works ... not at all. Most of NASCAR's success was sue to Bill France and his technical guru, BJ will remember his name, setting the rules and enforcing them, sometimes somewhat murkily, but the manufacturers did not get to dictate! |
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The review on penalties is a step in the right direction, though I'm not too sure about the rest of the suggestions.
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The Strategy Group, certainly in it's current guise, is not fit for purpose and I would go so far as to say that it is bringing F1 into disrepute.
At the meetings of this group earlier this year, they were proposing that customer cars should be considered and that refuelling should be re-introduced. However, this week's meeting has kicked both of these ideas out. Considering that both of these proposals were unpopular, to say the least, amongst at least 50% of the entrants, one really has to wonder why they felt that they needed to waste so much time and energy putting them forward in the first place. It really is time that a truly independent voice was put in charge of promoting rule changes in F1. It is becoming an embarrassment having the current group running the show! |
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Never say never, I guess.
The F1 Strategy Group finally got something right !!!!??? Manual Clutches! "F1 Strategy Group meeting that took place on Wednesday and which were announced yesterday, particularly the restriction on driver aids, things like the manual clutch, from the Belgian Grand Prix onwards." http://www.pitpass.com/54219/British...ess-Conference |
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Guess it show that if they keep trying they'll eventually get something right
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So the fake launch control ive been bleating on about is finally going to get banned? Great.
We might even get wheel spin at the starts again. |
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and a lot of gearbox related retirements; they have more buttons than horsepower, so I can't see that ending well.
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Yes and no. As best as I can tell this is moving from a two to one stage clutch for starts (starting from a stop such as race starts, pit exit, after spins, etc.). Currently the first stage being the automated release up to and including the bite point. The second stage being the hand clutch release that handles the final amount of slippage via the driver. With all other up and down shifts being clutchless (from a drivers perspective).
In the future there would be no procedure to find and set the bite point. Drivers would have to find the bite point on their own each time they engage the clutch. It would still be a hand clutch (paddle and rheostat), still software controlled (clutch by wire) and still no driver action for up and down shifts other than gear selection. I can remember if launch engine mappings are allowed today (I don't think so). If so, I would expect that and any type of throttle (RPM) hold to be gone as well. It will make starts more interesting. Think of Webber and his typical horrible starts. Richard |
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a rather simple and 'straight away' solution from Juan Pablo...get rid of tire temperature sensors.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2015/0...straight-away/ would put more onus on the drivers to feel their own way around a track and could radically shake up the grid as the balance shifts back to drivers skill. |
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I apologise if I sound like a broken record, but I have advocated for years that F1 should dump all the electronic gizmos on the cars, and so that the drivers can return to the art of driving and controlling the cars by themselves. By getting rid of all the electronic bits and pieces on the car that assist the drivers starting and stopping, and even changing gears, and stripping the cars of all the sensors so that the drivers (and the teams) have to rely on their skill to understand what is happening in and around them.
By doing this we would drive down costs on the construction of the cars, and also dramatically reduce the personnel cost as they will be able to divest themselves of the countless bods that they employ in the back of the garages as well as those stuck in the bunkers back at their bases. Going one step further, ban car to pits radios and with no support operations in the bases any more, you have at one stroke slashed your telecoms budget. Furthermore, mandate standard electronics, as they do with the ECUs now, on the cars with a standardised fuel flow system. This would mean that the drivers would need to control their fuel supply by judicious use of their right feet. And so on ad infinitum. With all of these regressive changes we might even be able to sort the wheat from the chaff, drivers wise, and who knows, it might even spice up the show. And if that happened, it might even bring back some of the lost enthusiasts like myself who have been bored by the modern form of racing. |
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i like the idea of scaling back the amount of electronic gizmos but i do fear that doing away with them all together would make F1 irrelevant to a modern audience.
but as far as removing them incrementally to see what adds to and what subtracts from the sporting challenge is worth a go imo. for example im totally fine with a driver receiving step by step instructions from their race engineer on the pit wall but i dont like pit wall receiving real time instructions from race control back at headquarters. no doubt each one of us have a different idea of where that line should be but i do like JPM's idea. |
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I don't know how many posters to this thread have read Peter Wright's comprehensive article on spinal injuries and I have to wonder whether it might lead to a change in seating posture being mandated.Which might be a way to push the shape of the cars into a different development path.
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Yeah, I'd get rid of all the garbage gizmos save the bits n' pieces to do with safety. Modern audiences can chew on those.
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I agree 100% with JPM
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If the F1 legislative muppets are looking for a blueprint, they could do way worse than look at the current Indycar car. They seem to be very good at running close to one another. Too close for some apparently!
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i dont often watch Indy but yesterdays race had me glued to the TV.
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There is this thing called Formula Ford, some of the F1 people may have heard of it. It gives great racing and for a tiny cost (compared to F1). If they want a blueprint for future F1, you could do a lot worse than start there.
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