Driver Vettel vs Webber: Round 2 - Page 52

blaffer · 16 Jul 2010, 19:56 (Ref:2727756)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

... I also think Vettel will have a different team-mate in 2011. With Red Bull having recently extended Webber's contract, things could get very messy indeed.

Vettel alongside Webber in the same team in 2011 looks impossible now. The transfer market may not be that quiet after all.

Schummy · 16 Jul 2010, 22:18 (Ref:2727806)

It would fascinating to have Vettel and MS in the same team. A huge fight to see who gets the maximum attention from the team and who would be the best marketing tool.

In contrast, what a boring pairing would be Rosberg-Webber! A team just centered about who is fastest on the track. Puaggg!

**GTRMagic** · 17 Jul 2010, 00:55 (Ref:2727846)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Dr Marko's head explodes?

Looks like it happened... Dr Marko goes BOOM!

Mr Vettel has been the one disadvantaged apparently....

OZ_HCR32 · 17 Jul 2010, 06:16 (Ref:2727876)

Poor Horner. He has Vettel wanting to win the championship, Webber screaming foul! Newey throwing delopments at cars at an unpresedented rate. Hemut Marko being outspoken on any topic. The BBC and Eddie in his ear... for a pretty young guy he has LOTS on his plate.

Just as Horner didnt take the time o talk to Mark, Mark didnt take the time to talk to Horner, and Marko is running around making more work for Horner on a daily basis

SuperTourer · 17 Jul 2010, 07:55 (Ref:2727896)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

The stuff about seeing people's true colours in the BBC interview didn't seem too respectful neither.

Or your ropey racecraft.

It really is 'Vettel VS Webber: Round 2' now, isn't it?

ropey racecraft.

Oh yeh... bring it on!

**GTRMagic** · 18 Jul 2010, 13:14 (Ref:2728434)

Potsie shares his coconuts

After climbing down from the tree...

So if this is part of the clearing of the air at RBR, I wonder what has been promised/given to make this crisis of confidence go away

$$ perhaps?

**Bononi** · 18 Jul 2010, 15:24 (Ref:2728467)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Potsie shares his coconuts

After climbing down from the tree...

So if this is part of the clearing of the air at RBR, I wonder what has been promised/given to make this crisis of confidence go away

$$ perhaps?

I've seen this happening sooo many times...

Teretonga · 18 Jul 2010, 22:04 (Ref:2728755)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Potsie shares his coconuts

After climbing down from the tree...

So if this is part of the clearing of the air at RBR, I wonder what has been promised/given to make this crisis of confidence go away

$$ perhaps?

I think Webber has made his point with the management who have then sorted themselves out.
Now he's pouring oil on the water to calm everythinhg down in reponse to their requests.
If they had made statements it would have resulted in derision, but if Mark makes them there appears to be some credibility.

Schummy · 19 Jul 2010, 00:19 (Ref:2728801)

I loved when Mansell used to throw his coconuts to team chiefs' heads (pun intended).

strider · 19 Jul 2010, 18:25 (Ref:2729200)

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Originally Posted by Teretonga

I think Webber has made his point with the management who have then sorted themselves out.
Now he's pouring oil on the water to calm everythinhg down in reponse to their requests.
If they had made statements it would have resulted in derision, but if Mark makes them there appears to be some credibility.

I think that's correct and this is the quid pro quo from the big boss himself.

Now we need to see how it all works out in practice. I have yet to hear one word of regret from Vettel for what he did in Turkey and until I do the question mark remains where he is concerned.

wnut · 19 Jul 2010, 23:09 (Ref:2729396)

When you take into account what Dietrich Mateschitz says above and the amount of money he has invested in racing. He would seem to be a racer through and through!

I would suggest that the favouring of one driver over another would not be hos way, and the practices at RBR F1 must be irritating him to say the least.

Hopefully Marko is sidelining himself from the program and Horner and Newey will be left alone to get on with the job of running a racing team without Marko's politics.

Dietrich Mateschitz has always seemed like a real gent to me and is a man of his word, a rare beast in modern life.

St00ge · 20 Jul 2010, 01:39 (Ref:2729422)

Looking forward to qualifying in Germany

should be interesting

herowassenna · 20 Jul 2010, 13:24 (Ref:2729603)

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Originally Posted by wnut

Dietrich Mateschitz has always seemed like a real gent to me and is a man of his word, a rare beast in modern life.

Whatever the truths in this story, i always got the impression from Mateschitz that Red Bull was about fun and extreme sports. Just look at who and what he sponsors world wide.
Having an Aussie World Champion wouldn't be the end of the world, the country as a whole seems to live and breath sports and didn't bungee jumping start there?
The other consideration i always make is that when DC left the sterile Mclaren and moved to Red Bull, he began sporting a beard rather than the waxed complexion of before.

Knowlesy · 20 Jul 2010, 14:48 (Ref:2729636)

Yep, it showed that you couldn't take the corporate streak out of DC.

ASCII Man · 20 Jul 2010, 20:05 (Ref:2729799)

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Originally Posted by herowassenna

The other consideration i always make is that when DC left the sterile Mclaren and moved to Red Bull, he began sporting a beard rather than the waxed complexion of before.

Looked like a right mess too, pretty much like a brick with fuzz.

Super Hans · 20 Jul 2010, 20:59 (Ref:2729810)

The idea that growing a beard is a crazy, extreme sport-esque thing to do is hilarious and was expertly lampooned by Sniff Petrol.

hgmonaro · 21 Jul 2010, 00:32 (Ref:2729867)

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Originally Posted by herowassenna

didn't bungee jumping start there?

no, that's a Kiwi thing, although Wikipedia says "The first modern bungee jumps were made on 1 April 1979 from the 250-foot Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol".

We are happy to claim them (Kiwi's) as our 7th state when they do ok at something (except Rugby)

Massa_number1 · 21 Jul 2010, 02:27 (Ref:2729887)

webbers doing well considering his grandad might be going to jail!

http://www.thef1times.com/news/display/00796

he must have some serious mental toughness with that going on in his private life

djb · 21 Jul 2010, 02:43 (Ref:2729894)

[QUOTE=Massa_number1;2729887]webbers doing well considering his grandad might be going to jail!

http://www.thef1times.com/news/display/00796

don't be silly, its not his grandpa, its his penis.

and/or, he must have some serious mental toughness with that going on with his privates.

sorry, just couldnt resist that one.

SuperTourer · 21 Jul 2010, 10:57 (Ref:2730056)

This is very interesting from Hans Stuck:

http://www.thef1times.com/news/display/01567

On a side note, I really loved the way he muscled the M3GTR around Green Hell a few years back. It was truly awesome in-car footage from his qualifying laps. One of my favorite drivers!

I am getting very excited now about the German GP!

E.B · 21 Jul 2010, 11:33 (Ref:2730074)

Interesting story.......

Webber did not want new wing, says RBR engineer

Super Hans · 21 Jul 2010, 11:41 (Ref:2730077)

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Originally Posted by E.B

Interesting story.......

Webber did not want new wing, says RBR engineer

I think that was already well known, in fairness.

E.B · 21 Jul 2010, 12:08 (Ref:2730090)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

I think that was already well known, in fairness.

I agree, and in fact after the event suggested it myself in a previous post.

It was more the fact that a senior engineer at Red Bull should feel strongly enough to give the inside story or confirmation that it was indeed fact, and that the story suggests "WE believe that the team management's decision was well-reasoned and logical."

Sounds like potentially within the team Mark has made more enemies than friends over his stance and comments.

Having said that I still believe Mark and Sebastian should have been told about it rather than discover it, but it does justify why the wing was given to Seb.

One wonders had Mark run the new wing and not won the race he might be saying 'Yeah mate, but I was ordered to use the front wing I did not like.....

'

E.B · 21 Jul 2010, 12:23 (Ref:2730101)

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Originally Posted by hgmonaro

Wikipedia says "The first modern bungee jumps were made on 1 April 1979 from the 250-foot Clifton Suspension Bridge in Bristol".

I think that was a group of guys which included Chris Hiatt-Baker, a one time Formula Ford pilot I got to know in the mid 70's. He was also into Hang Gliding, and in fact anything as long as danger was involved!

strider · 21 Jul 2010, 12:38 (Ref:2730111)

This does not bode well for the rest of the season, although it is nothing more than we could have have worked out for ourselves.

As a random fact, Hamilton does not like Vettel either, perhaps because he sees him as a threat.

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