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Yes I meant the mfgers will have a head start in that they can develop their KERS systems better than a privateer buying a customer KERS system.
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Can't imagine there's anything to stop a manufacturer selling on their KERS system to a privateer willing to put up the cash?
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I reckon this cost cut crap is a load of bull . If they really want to cost cap P2 ..... make them all open toppers and let the big wigs (P1) go the coupe route .
It would also help with class defination as P1 would be Coupe and P2 Spyders . Kers aint cost capping . Cost capped wheels ..... gimme a break . |
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Yes, keep LMP2 simple. Also dont see the point of LMP2 in WEC - LMS and ALMS should be enough ...
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If you like open-top prototypes, you better enjoy seeing them now because they will probably be extinct in a few years in P2 (and certainly P1 it seems) either by rule or by the natural flow of things. It'll be a bit sad not to see open-top cars because I thought the variety really added to the show. The Peugeot vs. Audi battles were more dramatic IMO when the cars looked vastly, vastly different. They still look different, but not to the same effect. |
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Coupes look awesome, regardless. Diversity or not, if you pay attention to this type of racing at all, you know the difference between Audi and Peugeot. Though, the helicopter camera shots can get confusing. But I say leave the open cars for P2 and have the coupes for P1.
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P2 looks like P1 already...remember the 2011 Lola P2 Coupe Level 5 ran? I thought it was a P1 car until I noticed who was running it.
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I knew it was a P2 because it was all black (if that's the car you speak of). No P1's are all black, that one R18 comes close though.
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Being more of a GT fan I hadn't kept track of what was going on in LMP hence the confusion...
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The ACO has said that the P1 class is principally for manufacturers. If it gets enough of those to fill the P1 grid then the P1 privateers wont be considered and will be expected to go to P2. That is probably why the big P1 privateers are so keen to link up with a manufacturer (as well as the money it brings, of course)
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Privateers rocks as constructors, especially when car makers are so frivolous with their engagements to the sport. One the other hand if all that people move to LMP2 it would make the class so much more exciting, and would give some appeal to the new (decapitated) Le Mans Series... |
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The LMP900 era had too many manufactuers leading to underfunded, average cars that were no match for Audi.
The ideal situation would be manufactuers suppling a couple of customer cars apiece, and the likes of Lola, Wirth and ORECA suppling well developed customer cars with engine options from Toyota, Honda, Nissan etc. Of course, there will be some crossover between manufactuers and constructors, i.e Wirth may become Honda's representative, ORECA and Nissan, Zytek servicing Nissan engines etc. |
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Interesting stuff here regarding next season from an ACO technical bulletin.
7% reduction in power for the diesels amongst other things? Will that be enough? http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...owed-for-2012/ |
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Sounds like the ACO also know of a factory petrol P1 effort on the very near horizon and want it to have a fighting chance against Audi and Peugeot. EDIT: Even with these reductions, I wouldn't be surprised if the pole time in 2012 is a 3:24-3:25 again and it's set by a diesel. Last edited by Victor_RO; 10 Oct 2011 at 19:13. |
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Looks like some fairly interesting developments for LMP2 John Dagys is tweeting.
Each chassis manufacturer must sell at least one of each model to a WEC team apparently. I'm not sure how that will be enforced if no one wants to buy one... |
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Thinking about number of laps per stint at Le Mans, I wonder how much the smaller restrictor will reduce fuel consumption, and therefore the smaller fuel tank size is to prevent getting an extra lap compared to last year.
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Why dont they leave LMP2 for LMS/ALMS?
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It will be interesting to see next year which of the two diesel manufacturers will benefit from the smaller restrictor and lower turbo boost. Audi did not have the ideal engine configuration (6 cilinders and single turbo) this year, so the rule change might help them a bit. |
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