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IndyCar are also working on a solution but what they are doing is evaluating the windshield before they make a decision to commit. The next test will be at a street circuit but that won't happen until the season starts, so the test will be either at the season opener at St. Pete or the third round at Long Beach.
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Two approaches. One was push forward with a solution to a deadline. The other will keep going until they have something more relevant to themselves, but will take longer.
Hopefully someone will post another photo or video of the halo and we can start this all over again! |
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It looks like the drivers have more important things on their mind
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13...o-introduction |
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i love how they're always like, look at the crappy little rear wings, we got over that didn't we? NO WE DIDN'T! they looked awful and the cheers when they went back to proper wings were almost deafening!
it's interesting to note that the drivers daring to express a negative opinion about the halo are outside of f1. |
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Also it was Fred's head that was wedged against a concrete barrier in Melbourne, so I guess he would appreciate why the HALO is on the car! |
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Another reason to leave F1 as an open wheel / open cockpit racing series. Too much cotton balls in pitlane at the moment. |
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Could there be any complications when running Halo in the wet? I am not personally expecting anything, but the last thing a driver wants is a new unexpected stream of water eminating from the Halo. I presume they would have tested that.
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There are gonna be flaws to this halo. I still feel more research needed to go in to the shield, rather than just a quick run by Vettel at Silverstone.
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LMP drivers can extract themselves fine with a full roof. Just saying.
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I’m amazed that this hasn’t been considered before now.
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Despite being a forum full of smart people, we seem to go in odd circles with how you couldn't extract a driver if they had a roof, and how would they possibly cope with water on a windscreen. It's almost like when people enter this thread, they completely forget that they have seen other forms of motorsport, and may have even driven a road car with solutions to these problems.
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I don’t want to rehash previous discussions as all of this has been discussed ad nauseam but my quick comments are... All of those are perfectly good points to discuss, but remember no single solution will work best in all potential scenarios. Also no single safety item exists in a vacuum. They are part of a larger safety solution (course design, emergency personnel, etc.). It’s about getting the right balance among a multitude of factors such as cost, effectiveness, aesthetics, impact upon the quality of racing, etc. Richard Last edited by Richard C; 25 Feb 2018 at 14:26. |
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I trust that someone has checked that the start lights will still be visible from all the grid slots at all the tracks, if not then we may get some very dangerous starts
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However, this article does uncover a potential major flaw. These drivers will not know it is raining. What a disastrous own goal by the FIA here. It’s a joke. I would be surprised if Australia is cancelled. |
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i like that.
if the driver cant directly tell if weather conditions are changing and thus has to rely more on their ability to feel the car/track with their 'hands and arse' then thats a positive in my books. drivers who are better able to feel changing grip levels will benefit more. from this point of view, a safety improvement is increasing the driving challenge. |
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What I find interesting about all of the conversation and commentary (including from drivers) about how they are able to effectively ignore and look beyond the Halo, etc. These are also arguments in support of canopy or windscreens as well (from the perspective that many feel the F1 drivers can't handle any visual obstructions). Issues that closed cockpit drivers have been dealing with for many decades. Yet somehow this is magic with the Halo.
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