The future of Corvette - Page 56

Silver 3 · 24 Jun 2010, 03:18 (Ref:2717197)

I think to be fair-if Corvette had 6 cars running the odds would have been significently better. The cars had the race pace to win.The more tickets inthe lottery of incidence surviving the better the chance of producin a winner~!

The Badger · 24 Jun 2010, 11:30 (Ref:2717355)

^ cars , I somehow cant see that happening with their currant price tag !!!

Be nice to see a European & Asian team running a couple of them though .

rich07 · 25 Jun 2010, 05:07 (Ref:2717669)

Yes it would be great to see at least one car in LMS. I know LAA were looking at BMW but it would be great to see them racing one of these, seeing as though they've raced the C5R/C6R in GT1. (Im guessing funding is the problem here).

Rennen · 25 Jun 2010, 09:09 (Ref:2717722)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

It was their first shot at Le Mans with the cars. They didn't win the first time out in GTS/GT1 either. And I think the Pug incident played a major role in the 64's eventual failure. Had they not had to replace the oil tank and many other components, it very well may not have failed.

You can't prove that, and P&M are never going to divulge the true failure anyway. Perhaps larger Mirrors might help the drivers, spot low LMPs coming up alongside them?

WMUCarGuy · 25 Jun 2010, 14:29 (Ref:2717847)

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Originally Posted by Rennen

You can't prove that, and P&M are never going to divulge the true failure anyway. Perhaps larger Mirrors might help the drivers, spot low LMPs coming up alongside them?

Sure we can't prove it but when you change the entire oil system in your car in 20 minutes and then 20 minutes later your engine fails due to rising oil pressure, it's pretty easy to put 2 and 2 together.

The Badger · 25 Jun 2010, 16:32 (Ref:2717903)

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Originally Posted by Rennen

You can't prove that, and P&M are never going to divulge the true failure anyway. Perhaps larger Mirrors might help the drivers, spot low LMPs coming up alongside them?

I thought the C6 had a monitor in the cockpit , instead of a rear view mirror ?

HORNDAWG · 25 Jun 2010, 16:54 (Ref:2717914)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I thought the C6 had a monitor in the cockpit , instead of a rear view mirror ?

They do! That is just an accusation that Collard did not look in his mirrors before being put off by the Pug. There is no problem with the rear view for the drivers in the Vettes.

L.P.

broadrun96 · 25 Jun 2010, 18:04 (Ref:2717939)

Might have been better to see with larger side mirrors as the camera faces directly rearward, if it's the same system as the GT1 version. Didn't Fehan say the failures were close if not similar on both the Vettes? Also thought I had seen in a quote after LM that the repairs likely had nothing to do with the later engine failure?

HORNDAWG · 25 Jun 2010, 20:39 (Ref:2717982)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Might have been better to see with larger side mirrors as the camera faces directly rearward, if it's the same system as the GT1 version. Didn't Fehan say the failures were close if not similar on both the Vettes? Also thought I had seen in a quote after LM that the repairs likely had nothing to do with the later engine failure?

Oil starvation from/during the incident.

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“They put us in the wall in the Porsche Curves,” he angrily told Crash.net after the retirement, “and there was a massive job to try and get the car fixed. The guys did an amazing job, but during that period the engine had got starved a little bit of oil, which did some damage to one of the valves. I came out of the second chicane along Mulsanne and I could tell it wasn't firing on all cylinders properly – and then it just went bang.

Here

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 29 Jun 2010, 06:22 (Ref:2719651)

Hmm, as it seems the engine capacity reduction is off with the intro of GTE until at least 2013, maybe going to 6.2L might be in the werks.

L.P.

arakis · 29 Jun 2010, 19:07 (Ref:2719975)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Hmm, as it seems the engine capacity reduction is off with the intro of GTE until at least 2013, maybe going to 6.2L might be in the werks.

L.P.

what do you mean, i didn't quite understand, was an egine reduction planed at all

HORNDAWG · 29 Jun 2010, 19:59 (Ref:2720013)

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Originally Posted by arakis

what do you mean, i didn't quite understand, was an egine reduction planed at all

The ACO during '08 & '09 were in lockstep with the Rat in the direction that GT was headed. Which lead to the '10 rulest from the ACO:

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LM GT1 - 2010

• Category open to cars complying with the 2010 FIA GT regulations

• After reception of entries for the 2010 Le Mans 24 Hours, the ACO will decide to maintain the GT1 category (or not) according to well-defined criteria (presence of manufacturers, quality of the entries, reliability guarantees)

• Otherwise, the ACO reserves itself the right to keep only a single GT category in 2010

LM GT2 - 2010

• The current GT cars are eligible up to the end of 2011

• Cars complying with the 2010 FIA GT regulations are eligible from 2010 onwards

• The ACO reserves itself the right to adjust the performances between the current GT2 cars and the 2010 FIA GT2s for Le Mans events

• The ACO retains its independence concerning the homologation of a GT2 car

Which also states that the FIA GT-2 rules would be utilized going forward, which call for a reduction to 5.0L <> 5.5L maximum for GT-2 (ala the wonderful chart floating around of the Rats classes).
Since then Ratel has basically killed GT-2 and Endurance GT-1 and it seems the ACO are no longer of the mind to stay aligned with Ratel in the rules and have cut GT-1 and retained the '09 ruleset which has the 8.0L capacity instead of the projected 5.0L<>5.5L capacity of the FIA's ruleset.
And yes, Fehan did say on several occasions that the reduction in engine size for the Corvettes was to be in compliance with upcoming rules changes, which now seem to have gone by the wayside.

L.P.

Dani Filth · 29 Jun 2010, 20:21 (Ref:2720024)

would that mean a reduction in waivers??

The Badger · 29 Jun 2010, 21:00 (Ref:2720048)

Possibily , but hardly 47 of them !!!

HORNDAWG · 29 Jun 2010, 21:08 (Ref:2720053)

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

would that mean a reduction in waivers??

I would imagine running a stock size engine vs an undersized one might.

L.P.

broadrun96 · 29 Jun 2010, 21:32 (Ref:2720065)

Still have to take the supercharged off though, isn't the ZR-1 the homologated GT2 chassis? Plus take the carbon brakes off as well. But I guess we'll get to see what they have waived for next season, when will the ACO publish the waivers as promised, before the ALMS season or LM test time if there isn't one running in the LMS next season.

HORNDAWG · 9 Jul 2010, 18:37 (Ref:2724161)

Hmm, doesn't seem that Manu thinks there is anything wrong with the rear view in the Vette!

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It is at this time that he has been hanging with Anthony Davidson, in the second Porsche-karting rolling left. The protos have so much support that some drivers do not imagine that there is only one possible path for a WP this part. I was surprised that Davidson attempts such exceeded in such a place. I had to go outside so that there is no contact, on the dirty side of track, and I lost the car. Instantly, I was well obviously very disappointed and very angry because, in addition to causing the accident, he said in all media that was not his fault. Since then, he sent me a mail to apologize. It's a bit late, but good... I'm big on the potato as they say.

Here

L.P.

lemansfan · 10 Jul 2010, 12:16 (Ref:2724384)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

I thought the C6 had a monitor in the cockpit , instead of a rear view mirror ?

http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/2216/xigo4fa2_jpg

Monitor instead rear view Mirror in the Corvette GT 2 .

The Badger · 10 Jul 2010, 16:24 (Ref:2724461)

Tidy looking cockpit , lovely machine .

gwyllion · 12 Jul 2010, 22:30 (Ref:2725777)

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Corvette Racing program manager Doug Fehan says they have diagnosed the engine failures that put an end to the team’s Le Mans bid last month. Both the Nos. 63 and 64 machines had valve issues, specifically in the 7th and 8th cylinders. The failures were duplicated after extensive analysis, and Fehan doesn’t expect the problem to crop up in the remaining ALMS events.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ace-notebook1/

No mention that 2nd engine failure was related to the crash.

HORNDAWG · 12 Jul 2010, 23:17 (Ref:2725803)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...ace-notebook1/

No mention that 2nd engine failure was related to the crash.

And why should he? Corvette rarely airs it's laundry, it was simply explained that it was a valve failure.
Which is exactly what Ollie said the failure was, with the further explanation of; Here

L.P.

HORNDAWG · 22 Jul 2010, 18:42 (Ref:2730764)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

^ cars , I somehow cant see that happening with their currant price tag !!!

Be nice to see a European & Asian team running a couple of them though .

Hmm, so I guess you do not see anyone buying a new Metech Ford GT GTLM(-2) at € 500,000. either then?

L.P.

arakis · 23 Jul 2010, 01:25 (Ref:2730935)

not when ferrari and porsche are half the price of the corvette, and in europe and basicly the rest of the world porsche and ferrari attract more sponsors! So that leaves only the US ALMS for a perspective buyer and I am not sure a lot of people are ready to spend lots and lots of cash whaen they know they can;t beat the factory team. so my guess is that the number of corvettes sold will be very low

HORNDAWG · 23 Jul 2010, 02:16 (Ref:2730945)

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Originally Posted by arakis

not when ferrari and porsche are half the price of the corvette, and in europe and basicly the rest of the world porsche and ferrari attract more sponsors! So that leaves only the US ALMS for a perspective buyer and I am not sure a lot of people are ready to spend lots and lots of cash whaen they know they can;t beat the factory team. so my guess is that the number of corvettes sold will be very low

Hmm, and how does the question about the Matech illicit a response about Corvette?

I will once again iterate, Corvette is not building chassis to sell, per se. They do sell them, and are always willing to sell them, but they are not in the bussiness of building customer cars.
They have sold almost every car that they have built, and most have ended up racing on the Continent.

L.P.

Flyin Ryan · 23 Jul 2010, 04:12 (Ref:2730971)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

They have sold almost every car that they have built, and most have ended up racing on the Continent.

"Thanks Luc Alphand."

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