IMSA TUSC 2015 Entries, Schedule, and Rumors - Page 58

Dodge_Swinger · 1 Dec 2014, 15:32 (Ref:3480764)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

What annoys me the most is that you have these most amazing tracks & event formats in USCC yet the series is terrible, and then you have WEC which has lots of promise as series yet the tracks & event formats apart from LM are uninspiringly sterile and boring. I think there used to be a series couple of years ago that combined these two worlds, but I must've been daydreaming for those 15 years in time as such fantasy combination couldn't possible have existed.

I don't consider Spa, Silverstone, Fuji or the Nurburgring to be sterile or boring, although I agree that COTA, Shanghai and Bahrain are a bit generic. I think the cars and competition in WEC easily overcome a few boring tracks.

I remember reading that one of the major reasons that WEC pulled out of Sebring was the questionable driving of the PC and GTC entries. Some of the teams were concerned that their cars would be damaged by non-championship teams. I'm not saying that WEC drivers are automatically better, but there is an element of truth to that. If I were a competitor in WEC, I would want to see WEC rules and officiating at Sebring. I don't fault WEC for withdrawing.

I don't see why people are upset with Audi, either. I don't think Audi wanted to cruise around the track for 12 hours, racing only against themselves. Audi seems to understand that they need to compete against teams as serious as they are. Ford and GM only want to race where the competition is continuously managed to insure no one gets any sort of advantage through better engineering.

MagVanisher · 1 Dec 2014, 16:18 (Ref:3480773)

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Originally Posted by Dodge_Swinger

I don't consider Spa, Silverstone, Fuji or the Nurburgring to be sterile or boring, although I agree that COTA, Shanghai and Bahrain are a bit generic. I think the cars and competition in WEC easily overcome a few boring tracks.

Silverstone and Fuji are great tracks, but they lost their luster because of Formula One, especially the latter where it held just two races at the turn of the century.

Let's not forget, the WEC wants prestige like attracting VIPs. Hence, almost all of the tracks are Grade 1.

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Originally Posted by Dodge_Swinger

I don't see why people are upset with Audi, either. I don't think Audi wanted to cruise around the track for 12 hours, racing only against themselves. Audi seems to understand that they need to compete against teams as serious as they are. Ford and GM only want to race where the competition is continuously managed to insure no one gets any sort of advantage through better engineering.

Fair play is great, but I think Ford and GM should do better when it comes to their cars and drivers, not being on top because of the race itself.

As for Audi, I would like the German marque to challenge themselves how to stay on top while having a limited budget.

Well, next year's TUSC is gonna be silly and horrible at the same time!

NaBUru38 · 1 Dec 2014, 16:56 (Ref:3480786)

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Originally Posted by Rcz

Yeah, don't mess with the enduros.

To get Mid-Ohio back, I'd change Petit Le Mans into two 4-hour split races for protos and GT.

FLGTFAN · 1 Dec 2014, 17:16 (Ref:3480795)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

To get Mid-Ohio back, I'd change Petit Le Mans into two 4-hour split races for protos and GT.

I've been to both venues and I can say that M-O is not a great showcase for these cars, especially when compared to Petit Le Mans.

BullMan · 1 Dec 2014, 18:02 (Ref:3480810)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

To get Mid-Ohio back, I'd change Petit Le Mans into two 4-hour split races for protos and GT.

That's an awful idea.

gsmith2424 · 1 Dec 2014, 19:58 (Ref:3480847)

Just read that Shank is looking at the Honda for his new car and it may run Daytona now.

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/11139...acturer-switch

Rodger Davies · 1 Dec 2014, 20:04 (Ref:3480851)

Was sort of hoping that if he switched Ford would cough up for a second Ganassi car but it doesn't seem likely unfortunately.

gsmith2424 · 1 Dec 2014, 20:16 (Ref:3480853)

Add AF Corse for Daytona in GTLM:

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/11139...car-at-daytona

Coach Ep · 1 Dec 2014, 20:20 (Ref:3480857)

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Originally Posted by FLGTFAN

I've been to both venues and I can say that M-O is not a great showcase for these cars, especially when compared to Petit Le Mans.

Out of curiosity: what makes you say that? Never been to Mid-Ohio but that should change next year.

David Land · 1 Dec 2014, 23:02 (Ref:3480894)

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Originally Posted by NaBUru38

To get Mid-Ohio back, I'd change Petit Le Mans into two 4-hour split races for protos and GT.

Add Mid Ohio, ruin PLM one of the few events that will weather IMSA's failure.

carbsmith · 2 Dec 2014, 00:22 (Ref:3480912)

The only year Audi didn't race at Sebring Peugeot was there, what on Earth is this about Audi not showing up because of a lack of competition?

Gulf · 2 Dec 2014, 02:42 (Ref:3480945)

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Originally Posted by Lagunaseca_4life

Seriously? They had the chance,two years and they decided to go to COTA anyways.audi may be world class but there was nothing world class about a 12 hour practice session.i would love to see them comeback too,but as long as the ACO is involved with the FIA this world class racing will stick to crap so called world class parking lot tracks!

Not everyone one needs green white wreaker finishes to be entertained and by the pathetic size of last years 12 hour crowd it seems most people would rather see that 12 hour practice session than 6 hours of FCY.

**joeb** · 2 Dec 2014, 14:19 (Ref:3481066)

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Originally Posted by gsmith2424

Just read that Shank is looking at the Honda for his new car and it may run Daytona now.

http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/11139...acturer-switch

It would be great if they can get the program started by Daytona. I'm guessing since Oak isn't going to be running the car from last year it is still sitting in 8-Star's shop and available for Shank to use. Don't know what their plans were going to be for that chassis if Shank didn't come along.

Deleted · 2 Dec 2014, 14:37 (Ref:3481072)

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Originally Posted by Gulf

pathetic size of last years 12 hour crowd

But according to Bob Varsha and gang it was the greatest crowd in the history of world (bar Daytona) and epic increase from the past. Just as with Scotty's statements one has to wonder, would they lie?

Gulf · 2 Dec 2014, 15:19 (Ref:3481079)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

But according to Bob Varsha and gang it was the greatest crowd in the history of world (bar Daytona) and epic increase from the past. Just as with Scotty's statements one has to wonder, would they lie?

Lmao

Defiantly lying. I showed up like 20 mins before green and drove right up, no traffic at all and found a park before the start, that has never happened before.

nasportscar · 3 Dec 2014, 15:05 (Ref:3481495)

updated GTD entry list tracker http://nasportscar.com/entry-list-so...usc-gtd-class/

Coach Ep · 3 Dec 2014, 15:49 (Ref:3481507)

Former K-Pax partners looking for projects:

http://www.racer.com/pwc/item/111424...es-in-pwc-imsa

Dodge_Swinger · 3 Dec 2014, 17:11 (Ref:3481524)

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Originally Posted by Gulf

Lmao

Defiantly lying. I showed up like 20 mins before green and drove right up, no traffic at all and found a park before the start, that has never happened before.

Same at Petit. To get our usual camping spot, someone in our crew shows up on Wednesday. This year, we could have showed up Friday afternoon and gotten the spot. There was a lot of empty space all over the track.

BullMan · 3 Dec 2014, 18:12 (Ref:3481541)

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Originally Posted by Dodge_Swinger

Same at Petit. To get our usual camping spot, someone in our crew shows up on Wednesday. This year, we could have showed up Friday afternoon and gotten the spot. There was a lot of empty space all over the track.

This makes me so sad, especially when the series is throwing BS out there about the crowds.

Deleted · 3 Dec 2014, 18:20 (Ref:3481547)

I think the only man involved who actually had a whisper of truth in his words in regards to the crowd sizes was ironically Shank when a couple of months ago on racer.com he said "Good news is that attendance is way up". But that's because he wasn't referring to the ALMS attendances, but embarrasingly pitiful Grand-Am figures he was so used to... anything's gonna look like an 'improvement' after those

JHamilton · 3 Dec 2014, 18:37 (Ref:3481555)

I was at both Sebring and PLM and the crowds were very respectable. I have seen larger and smaller crowds at both races during the ALMS era. I would say a top 5 crowd was at PLM.

Coach Ep · 3 Dec 2014, 19:14 (Ref:3481572)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

I was at both Sebring and PLM and the crowds were very respectable. I have seen larger and smaller crowds at both races during the ALMS era. I would say a top 5 crowd was at PLM.

It looked really quiet at Sebring to me, especially in GP, expecting even less folks next March as ticket prices are gone up considerably again.

Coach Ep · 3 Dec 2014, 19:27 (Ref:3481574)

And 2 more GTD entries confirmed: AJR-Weathertech and Wright/Dempsey, both Porsches.

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/we...tudor-in-2015/

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/de...ship-for-naec/

Gulf · 3 Dec 2014, 20:24 (Ref:3481593)

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Originally Posted by Dodge_Swinger

Same at Petit. To get our usual camping spot, someone in our crew shows up on Wednesday. This year, we could have showed up Friday afternoon and gotten the spot. There was a lot of empty space all over the track.

There was a ton of empty spaces but it made photography easy.

wdave0 · 3 Dec 2014, 21:26 (Ref:3481622)

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Originally Posted by Gulf

Lmao

Defiantly lying. I showed up like 20 mins before green and drove right up, no traffic at all and found a park before the start, that has never happened before.

What you got was the effect of infield parking price being jacked sky high. The free parking was jammed and the viewing mounds were pretty full. Not the biggest crowd I've seen, but respectable until about 4 hrs in when there was a line at the exit.

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