2014 Japanese Super GT

[TF110]

I made a mistake. The 1070kg should be 1090kg. It was a 70kg handicap for the nsx being mid engine. Thats from 1020kg. Now its 1077kg. Im not sure the hybrid is reason for the weight. It adds minimal performance

[Japanese Samurai]

Sports-carracing.net reports JAF-GT300MC.
http://www.sports-carracing.net/2014...140903special1

-Nissan did not permit the right of use of the design of 370Z and GTR.
-Lexus did not permit the right of use of the design of RC-F.
-Honda did not permit the right of use of the design of CR-Z and Jazz.
-So these cars will not be mother chassis car.
-Dome is charging 50 million yen as development costs of the Mother chassis to GTA.
-GTA is planning four chassis of contracts during this season.
-Mooncraft will develop the Mother chassis vehicles of Lotus badge. It will be midship layout.
-The team which uses GTR GT3 this season will use Mother chassis GT86 next season.
-Thailand Toyota likes the Mother chassis vehicles of Auris better than GT86.

[Japanese Samurai]

-The prices of Mother chassis vehicles seem to be about 60 million yen.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

-The prices of Mother chassis vehicles seem to be about 60 million yen.

Erm... which one is more expensive Mother chassis or GT3 race car??

[Japanese Samurai]

Originally Posted by AkioAsakura95

Erm... which one is more expensive Mother chassis or GT3 race car??

GT3: about 40-45 million yen.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

GT3: about 40-45 million yen.

Then which one is faster or more competitive GT3 or mother chassis??

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Sports-carracing.net reports JAF-GT300MC.
http://www.sports-carracing.net/2014...140903special1

-Nissan did not permit the right of use of the design of 370Z and GTR.
-Lexus did not permit the right of use of the design of RC-F.
-Honda did not permit the right of use of the design of CR-Z and Jazz.
-So these cars will not be mother chassis car.
-Dome is charging 50 million yen as development costs of the Mother chassis to GTA.
-GTA is planning four chassis of contracts during this season.
-Mooncraft will develop the Mother chassis vehicles of Lotus badge. It will be midship layout.
-The team which uses GTR GT3 this season will use Mother chassis GT86 next season.
-Thailand Toyota likes the Mother chassis vehicles of Auris better than GT86.

Excuse me, was mother chassis can be accepted for using hybrid machine (example: BMW i8 or so on) ????

[Japanese Samurai]

Competitiveness depends on BOP.

To be sure, JAF-GT300MC is more expensive than FIA-GT3.
However, FIA-GT3 car can be used only two years.
And, JAF-GT300MC can maintain competitiveness for years, since it can be updated.

As for JAF-GT300MC, hybrid system is forbidden by the regulation.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Sports-carracing.net reports JAF-GT300MC.
http://www.sports-carracing.net/2014...140903special1

-Nissan did not permit the right of use of the design of 370Z and GTR.
-Lexus did not permit the right of use of the design of RC-F.
-Honda did not permit the right of use of the design of CR-Z and Jazz.
-So these cars will not be mother chassis car.
-Dome is charging 50 million yen as development costs of the Mother chassis to GTA.
-GTA is planning four chassis of contracts during this season.
-Mooncraft will develop the Mother chassis vehicles of Lotus badge. It will be midship layout.
-Thailand Toyota likes the Mother chassis vehicles of Auris better than GT86.

As for JAF-GT300MC, hybrid system is forbidden by the regulation.

Great!! Now I already confirm the three chassis. There are Toyota GT86 , Toyota Auris and Lotus. Now I hoped that the fourth chassis is BMW since BMW has accepted the proposal of participating in GT500 for Team Studie
This is the suggestion for me is BMW M2 ( actually it is a BMW M235i model because M2 is not yet production and M2 just the name) because it has a concept of that model ( refer BMW vision gran tursimo)

And this is link that Team Studie has accepted the proposal of participating in GT500 from BMW:

http://www.kansenzyuku.com/2014/02/4690.html
(As refer to the "top secret" video that Yasuaki Suzuki said)

And this is the picture that i suggest for mother chassis concept picture model:



Thanks Samurai for your tips that you give me one.

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Sports-carracing.net reports JAF-GT300MC.
http://www.sports-carracing.net/2014...140903special1

-Nissan did not permit the right of use of the design of 370Z and GTR.
-Lexus did not permit the right of use of the design of RC-F.
-Honda did not permit the right of use of the design of CR-Z and Jazz.
-So these cars will not be mother chassis car.
-Dome is charging 50 million yen as development costs of the Mother chassis to GTA.
-GTA is planning four chassis of contracts during this season.
-Mooncraft will develop the Mother chassis vehicles of Lotus badge. It will be midship layout.
-The team which uses GTR GT3 this season will use Mother chassis GT86 next season.
-Thailand Toyota likes the Mother chassis vehicles of Auris better than GT86.

Excuse me , is that the mother chassis is same as this season of GT500???

Then the team which uses GTR GT3 will switch to mother chassis is apr racing (second car #30)

[MagVanisher]

@AkioAsakura95

Is the BMW GT500 effort happening? I must be dreaming...

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

http://www.kansenzyuku.com/2014/02/4690.html

Yasuaki Suzuki (Team principal of Team Studie) told about future GT500 participation.

-We have the intention of participating in GT500 in the future.
-Actually, two years ago, we had accepted the proposal of participating in GT500 from BMW, if regulations unification was realized.
-However, at present, participating time of GT500 cannot be declared.
-That is because engine and some parts differs in Japan and German also in the present.
-Therefore, it is required to unify technical regulations completely.
-So, Our GT500 participation will be 2016, even if early. Probably, it will become around 2017-2018.

@MagVanisher

Do you remember this?? This is the "top secret" video that Yasuaki Suzuki (team principal of Team Studie) said one.
If not just a recall for you only

and this is another link of that but this link is french version one:
http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/bmw...ivee-en-gt500/

[MagVanisher]

Yes, I remember that. But if only Team Studie could roll-out the BMW GT500 car as early as next year, I'll be much happier!

If that happens, I'm expecting both Hitotsuyama and Gainer to follow suit with Audi and Mercedes, respectively.

[carbon_titanium]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Yes, I remember that. But if only Team Studie could roll-out the BMW GT500 car as early as next year, I'll be much happier!

If that happens, I'm expecting both Hitotsuyama and Gainer to follow suit with Audi and Mercedes, respectively.

unlikely, team studie is a sort of bmw official team in SGT300... hitotsuyama and gainer don't have any official support as far I know.

[TF110]

I wonder what Lotus model? Elise gt300 mother chassis?

[The IC]

Originally Posted by TF110

I wonder what Lotus model? Elise gt300 mother chassis?

itd have to be the latest Elise/Exige...only other choice is the Evora :P

Japanese Samurai, is there any more information on the "GTA V8" badged VK45DE? Is it supposed to be an optional engine that mother-chassis based cars can use? I thought there was a rule in GT300 where the engine had to come from the same manufacturer as the car represented by the body shape (with exceptions for car companies that didn't make their own engines like Vemac, Mooncraft, ASL)...

[Japanese Samurai]

There are 3 categories in GT300 class.
1) FIA-GT3
2) (Conventional) JAF-GT300 (Prius, CR-Z and BRZ)
3) JAF-GT300MC (GT86)

**Conventional JAF-GT300
-Original monocoque/rollcage/fueltank
-Engine brand must be the same as the body shape constructor.
-Engine layout change is allowed.
-KERS and AWD are allowed.

**JAF-GT300MC
-Spec monocoque/rollcage/flat bottom/diffuser/crushable structure/oiltank/fueltank
-"The engine accepted by GTA" can be equipped.
-Engine layout change is banned.
-KERS and AWD are banned.

[The IC]

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

There are 3 categories in GT300 class.
1) FIA-GT3
2) (Conventional) JAF-GT300 (Prius, CR-Z and BRZ)
3) JAF-GT300MC (GT86)

**Conventional JAF-GT300
-Original monocoque/rollcage/fueltank
-Engine brand must be the same as the body shape constructor.
-Engine layout change is allowed.
-KERS and AWD are allowed.

**JAF-GT300MC
-Spec monocoque/rollcage/flat bottom/diffuser/crushable structure/oiltank/fueltank
-"The engine accepted by GTA" can be equipped.
-Engine layout change is banned.
-KERS and AWD are banned.

ah, thanks for that

funny how they dont allow engine layout changes with the mother-chassis, even though its setup to take both FR and MR...

[hondafan37]

I would like to see this new Mazda in GT300MC
http://www.roadandtrack.com/watch-th...ivestream-here
http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/first...iata-1#slide-1

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by The IC

ah, thanks for that

funny how they dont allow engine layout changes with the mother-chassis, even though its setup to take both FR and MR...

Well, it has something to do about the relation with the original road car where teams would be used for the mother chassis. It would look out of place if an FR roadster has its engine on the back.

On the other hand, putting something like a kei-class car on a mother chassis wouldn't look great either.

[The IC]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Well, it has something to do about the relation with the original road car where teams would be used for the mother chassis. It would look out of place if an FR roadster has its engine on the back.

On the other hand, putting something like a kei-class car on a mother chassis wouldn't look great either.

yeah, but they already allowed that to begin with, the CR-Z, Prius, and the IS350 it replaced are all mid-engined setups

personally, i find whats supposed to be a Toyota bodied and badged car using a Nissan engine more out of place...

[Japanese Samurai]

Team TAISAN (#67) will switch the chassis to 458 GT3 from GTR GT3 from the Thailand round.
They sell GTR GT3 by 39.5 million yen (295,000 euro).
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=59641

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by The IC

yeah, but they already allowed that to begin with, the CR-Z, Prius, and the IS350 it replaced are all mid-engined setups

personally, i find whats supposed to be a Toyota bodied and badged car using a Nissan engine more out of place...

That's because they're work (or semi-work) teams and the cars themselves are mostly sedans (Prius and IS350) and hot-hatches (CR-Z)

And in regards to Mother Chassis, even though it's out-of-place, I could say it's more in line with STCC and V8 Supertourers as they want to attract upstart teams.

@Japanese Samurai

Say, what happened to the 458 GT3 car after Team Taisan bought the GT-R GT3? Did they sell it off or keep it?

[AkioAsakura95]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Yes, I remember that. But if only Team Studie could roll-out the BMW GT500 car as early as next year, I'll be much happier!

If that happens, I'm expecting both Hitotsuyama and Gainer to follow suit with Audi and Mercedes, respectively.

unlikely, team studie is a sort of bmw official team in SGT300... hitotsuyama and gainer don't have any official support as far I know.

@MagVanisher

I also hoped Team Studie will participating the GT500 car as early as next year also. But I'm expecting that BMW is the only earliest that I can expected to enter GT500 beacuse Team Studie is a BMW official team and BMW Japan also enter the GT500 as the sponsor in Mclaren F1 in 1996. So I hoped that Team Studie will stepped up to GT500 for next year and the first DTM manufacturer in GT500.

Here this is the picture of 1996 JGTC Mclaren F1
The machine name is : LARK Mclaren F1

[carbon_titanium]

more than sponsor I think that banner was there because the mclaren had bmw engine... afterall a pair of mclaren longtail have been used in 1997 by team schnitzer/BMW Motorsport in fia gt and le mans.
Basicly is like if nowadays corvette racing is going to use GM powered mosler MT900...