BTCC Races 28, 29 & 30 - Brands Hatch GP, Kent, 4th October 2009 - Page 6

White flag man · 7 Oct 2009, 22:49 (Ref:2556253)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

I expected this season to be a straight shootout between Gio and Matt Neal. However, it seems like the Vauxhall was no longer THE car to be in. It would be a shame if that is the last we have seen of Gio in BTCC.

I think Gio proved that the Vauxhall was certainly ONE of the cars to be in, just that Matt Neal was not one of the drivers to be in it.

**BertMk2** · 8 Oct 2009, 09:22 (Ref:2556481)

While we're at it - how did Plato not get penalised for his move to take the lead from Chilton in the second race? Just another punt from behind in the braking area to force Chilton wide, how many times does Plato have to do that before he picks up a penalty?

steve_r · 8 Oct 2009, 10:20 (Ref:2556517)

I need to watch the replay again, but was Matt Neal not running wide BEFORE Turkington got inside him? I might watch it again tonight, so see if my memory is playing tricks with me.

Hickey · 8 Oct 2009, 10:57 (Ref:2556536)

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Originally Posted by BertMk2

While we're at it - how did Plato not get penalised for his move to take the lead from Chilton in the second race? Just another punt from behind in the braking area to force Chilton wide, how many times does Plato have to do that before he picks up a penalty?

I thought that too.

However, there are so many moves like the one Adam got penalised for at Brands in April that happen each weekend. This weekend alone, you have Neal, Gio, Turkington, Plato et al pulling at least one of these moves.

I am really torn on this one; on the one hand it is underhand, unskilled, and blatant cheating. On the other hand, especially at circuits like Brands Hatch Indy, I am not sure we would see much overtaking at all if all these incidents were dealt with as seriously as Jordan's at Donnington (ie 3 points on licence). We would either have no one left at the end of the season who is permitted to race, or have very little overtaking for fear of reprisal.

Real tough one that won't get resolved overnight/winter break.

**BertMk2** · 8 Oct 2009, 11:07 (Ref:2556539)

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Originally Posted by steve_r

I need to watch the replay again, but was Matt Neal not running wide BEFORE Turkington got inside him? I might watch it again tonight, so see if my memory is playing tricks with me.

Yep, Neal had already run wide, Turkington got alongside him and hung him out to dry on the grass. If you watch it again - listen for the crowds reaction

**touringlegend** · 8 Oct 2009, 13:17 (Ref:2556630)

I watched race 3 again last night and it did almost look like Neal turned in on Turks later on in the corner. Surely the damage Turks picked up would point towards that being the case?

As for Plato / Chilton, Plato claimed the Focus braked earlier...

**BertMk2** · 8 Oct 2009, 13:51 (Ref:2556642)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

I watched race 3 again last night and it did almost look like Neal turned in on Turks later on in the corner. Surely the damage Turks picked up would point towards that being the case?

I think that was desparation on Neals part, if he'd lifted earlier and conceded the position he could have made it round the corner.

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

As for Plato / Chilton, Plato claimed the Focus braked earlier...

He would say that

Icebaby · 8 Oct 2009, 16:56 (Ref:2556754)

I disagree, Colin made enough contact with Neal to gain the place unfairly, although so did many others as mentioned, heart says Colin deserved the title but the rules had they been enforced would have seen Giovanardi win it.

The series has alot to answer for as to why no penalties were handed out.

davyboy · 8 Oct 2009, 17:48 (Ref:2556817)

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Originally Posted by Icebaby

I disagree, Colin made enough contact with Neal to gain the place unfairly, although so did many others as mentioned, heart says Colin deserved the title but the rules had they been enforced would have seen Giovanardi win it.

Nah... I think if the rules had been enforced over the entire season... then its most likely Colin would have still lifted the crown. He's arguably the cleanest driver in the series.

Craner Curves · 8 Oct 2009, 20:34 (Ref:2556954)

Icebaby, I believe this is yours.

diddy100 · 9 Oct 2009, 10:38 (Ref:2557399)

The last races were always going to be a bit rough - thats the way BTCC is and what brings in the fans - the last thing fans wanted was the race and the championship to be decided post cheq flag by penalties - stewards did a good job

Burnsie · 9 Oct 2009, 14:13 (Ref:2557523)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Nah... I think if the rules had been enforced over the entire season... then its most likely Colin would have still lifted the crown. He's arguably the cleanest driver in the series.

Agreed. On balance throughout the whole season, the right driver was crowned champion. Well done Colin!

Icebaby · 9 Oct 2009, 15:20 (Ref:2557565)

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Originally Posted by Craner Curves

Icebaby, I believe this is yours.

I use CD's now but thanks for the thought....

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