BNT NZSuperTourer 2015 - Page 6

Chappelli · 31 Jan 2015, 00:54 (Ref:3499331)

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Originally Posted by socram

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J42ayb1Js2A

Check out the crowded fields and the respect for other machinery. Very, very proud of the guys. Will any Super Tourer footage ever match this?

Watched the first 25% of it and barely saw another car....

I'm sure the last lap or so looked quite good, but that's got naff all to do with the class and everything to do with the handicapper...

Interesting thing is, it's a similar sized field to 2KCup, but with an obvious need to create "racing" through handicap starts.

Southern Man · 31 Jan 2015, 02:50 (Ref:3499347)

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Originally Posted by pukekoheracer

Lucky they are not having a round at the Nurburgring then.

Brilliant, has to be the come back reply of the year so far.

socram · 31 Jan 2015, 03:03 (Ref:3499352)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chappelli

Watched the first 25% of it and barely saw another car....

I'm sure the last lap or so looked quite good, but that's got naff all to do with the class and everything to do with the handicapper...

Interesting thing is, it's a similar sized field to 2KCup, but with an obvious need to create "racing" through handicap starts.

I suggest that if you did look beyond the first two laps, you might have a better understanding. Did you not see the rest of it?

When you have a membership that races anything from a 7 litre Corvette down to a 1300cc Ford Escort, what else are you supposed to do other than handicaps?

U2K cup are all 2 litre or under; no turbos; no modifications; a similar age group and therefore close racing is bound to be the order of the day.

socram · 1 Feb 2015, 03:08 (Ref:3499624)

...and then there were four. Oh dearie dearie me. Very sparse crowd indeed judging by the TV pics. I think I'll go back to painting the house

promax · 1 Feb 2015, 03:45 (Ref:3499627)

only 4?

mikuni · 1 Feb 2015, 05:57 (Ref:3499649)

There was a little tussle on the opening lap of race 2 leaving only 4 cars on the lead lap. There was also an awkward pause before the safety car came out. If I was the race directly and half my grid didn't make it through the first lap I probably would have red flagged it. I'm not a race director though, and this obviously would have ruffled a few feathers. Particular Evans shaped feathers.

Racing wasn't too bad. Though one has to wonder just how long TV3 will continue airing this, and pushing it as the premier touring car category in NZ. With only 4/5 cars out there TL and TLX are certainly challenging V8ST.

Comal · 1 Feb 2015, 20:12 (Ref:3499811)

Mark are you delusional thinking 8 cars is worth watching? Nice way to deflect the criticism too - attack other classes (Toyota's etc). You need to admit ST is in big trouble!
As Stu said entry should have been free, get the punters there so prospective drivers can show sponsors someone is actually interested, but no instead there was not only an entry charge, there was also a parking charge! Are you serious!
Yes Mark you may have been there and done everything and tried everything over the years, but the market has changed and things that didn't work in the past may work now.
No I'm not just having a crack at you, am just gutted to see how our roundy roundy racing in NZ is in tatters.
Rant over

NZSTfan · 2 Feb 2015, 02:26 (Ref:3499937)

Well, we had an interesting weekend of ups and downs, at Hampton Downs

Firstly, there is no point in glossing over the fact that the 3 ST races where terrible. First one, not so bad, last two, shocking.

My intention for the weekend was to say good bye to our trusted driver, Andre, as he embarks on his SBR career. Having not won a race in ST, that was our goal, to net him a first place. We had a really good car in qually, and managed a p3 and p2. The difference between the top 3 or 4 drivers was the closest I have seen. Difference between p1 and p2 for Q2 was 0.015 seconds...crazy close.

As I do the weather for the team, we already knew 5 days out from the meeting exactly what was going to happen. I am quite stoked from a personal point of view that the team has embraced me as a weather guru, and I seem to get it right 95% of the time, which is not bad when you are 5 days out from the meeting. I am told I am more accurate than Metservice! Initially I thought the team may have thought I was just some weather geek, but now we are really gelling as a team and my understanding of racing is improving, so I can implement that into my forecasts. We knew that at 3pm it would rain enough for wets. I was just about to make the call, and then management declared it wet, so that took some pressure off me. But we got it right, and knew about it a number of days prior. We also had a sniff of something happening mid-arvo on Saturday (2pm was the predicted time of arrival), and sure enough it came in right on 2pm. Not enough to get carried away with, but we knew it was going to happen.

So for Andre it was about giving him a good race car. Our guys did a great job, and Andres pass on D'Alberto into T1 was a piece of driving genius in my books. Andre set the fastest lap for that race, but he couldn't catch the Smeg Car of S.Evans, but he was gaining on him. It wasn't really a proper race to be fair being 15 laps long. It was kind of a qualifying session really. But we got 2nd, so that was cool.

Got there on Sunday and we started p2. we really thought we were in with a decent chance of Andre getting his first win....just gotta out-smart the Smeg car (easier said than done, but Andre has the ability). And then this boof-head called Dominic Storey did the most ridiculous move coming into T3 that ruined the race for us and others. What he was trying to do was beyond me, but he took out D'Alberto (rooted diff), Andre (twisted front of car) and this caused Andre to hit Mitch, but he was okay and ended up finishing second. Lucky Smeg..... His move also cocked up Varneys race, and it was just a stupid thing to do with only 8 cars.
You should have seen how he approached the grid for R3...wet track, comes flying into his grid box and nearly takes out half his team. I am well aware of short man syndrome, but this was something else!

Anyway, we did not look at the TV screen at all as Andres car was wheeled into the garage for repairs. It was really nice to see Owen offer some help and parts, and also some of Edgels team, and Varneys helped out too. So we were distracted with some quite considerable damage from that hit, so I just had no idea what people were seeing on TV.

Car got fixed and we started p6 for R3 (thanks again Dom

). It was wet, as mentioned, but Andre got through all of the mess and finished a credible 3rd. Not the result he wanted, but under the circumstances, quite good I reckon.

And then we came home after falling in love with the new TRS cars for their final hit-out of the round. these cars are just outstanding. They look cool, they sound cool, and go like a cut-cat from what I was told. There was some carnage over the round, but the last race was actually pretty clean. Some decided to go for wets, which was not a good move as the dry line had already formed from the ST's.

Switched on the box and started watching the telecast. I was then horrified at what I saw, which was 4 cars at one point. I should have put 2 n 2 together, but we were focused on Andres repair, and it just didn't click that there would be next to no cars out there. So the general armchair viewer would have switched off almost immediately one would think. The category has been flamed on social media, and I don't blame the people who are doing the flaming to be fair. I still love the category to bits, but this was and has to be the lowest point of the series. From here there has to be drastic changes for the next rounds, otherwise the category will lose all credibility and people will say enough is enough.

I shouted a client and his family in on the Sunday. I paid the $40 that was asked for, and my client had about 3 hours of 'action'.....c'mon. Thankfully though, as a sponsors perk we were able to get them in the garage, get the 9yo boy (whose birthday it was) into the car, and photos galore were taken. We even walked them past the Varney garage and they were so kind and let one of the 12yo girls have a sit in the Falcon. So a new 'punter' and his family travel some 3 hours to get there thinking it would be all action jackson. They still enjoyed the race (being in our pit bay), but you could tell they wanted to see more cars....who didn't? they got more of a thrill with the TRS, and so did we.

On to more positive stuff. I think it was a good move to put Mike Marsden on TV and have him declare that they are going through rough times, but have things in the pipeline...that to me is being honest with your audience. Something I like to see. Not this BS line of lies and hollow promises. That's one of the reasons there where a handful of people there. I counted more sparrows....

But my overall highlight was getting what I have always wanted from day 1 with ST...a hotlap

I went out on the Saturday with Andre at the helm and told him to 'scare me'

I was not scared at all, in fact I have never felt safer in my life. I can now honestly say with hand on heart that these machines have to be one of the best all-round touring cars on the planet. I have done a hotlap in a V8SC, which was great, but the ST was unreal. I have driven lots of fast cars in my time, so the speed is not what gets you. Its the bite of the brakes, how aggressive they stop you, and how quickly. The mid corner speed, the lateral grip....I could go on for hours. But seriously, its the best machine I have ever been in. So I've been in 4 V8 powered race cars now, an ST, a SC, a TL and a ute. Obviously you cannot compare all 4, but I would have thought the SC would have 'blown me away'....it was cool, but the ST was just amazing. If you do get a chance to have a lap, then grab it with both arms. I have not been in a TLX, but after talking at length with Shaun Varney on the weekend, he says they are night and day. I would still like to go in one though, because all things to one side for a moment, the TLX is still a fast car, so I imagine the experience would be 90% of what a ST would deliver.

But best of all was the fact that I was allowed to do some up-shifts. I have never driven a car with a sequential box before, and although I wasn't doing the driving, Andre let me do a handful of shifts as we exited T6...soooo cool

(why Holden or Ford don't make a track day car with this kind of technology is beyond me). I now crave a sequential box in my daily driver....bit impractical, but I'd like it nonetheless

So the package is good, they just need to act on their promises now, be honest with their audience (who are flaming them right now), and get more people in to these awesome machines. I hope that's what the future holds.

I took Marks advice too and spent a while talking to the Varneys about budget etc. They used the TLX as a stepping stone from TL's with the mindset that they wanted to be in ST. They confirmed that the budget was about the same. They also confirmed that their car cost a helluva lot of coin (as in close enough to buy two cars, let alone one). Nice people, and Shaun is getting the grips with the car. I liked them a lot, and will no doubt catch up with them in the future.

That's my report on things anyway. Hope everyone is well and enjoyed their weekends

Stu

GHOGH · 2 Feb 2015, 04:46 (Ref:3499961)

[But best of all was the fact that I was allowed to do some up-shifts. I have never driven a car with a sequential box before, and although I wasn't doing the driving, Andre let me do a handful of shifts as we exited T6...soooo cool
(why Holden or Ford don't make a track day car with this kind of technology is beyond me). I now crave a sequential box in my daily driver....bit impractical, but I'd like it nonetheless]
There are a number of road cars that can be fitted with a manual sequential transmission. The Mitsubishi Evo and Subaru WRX have a number of options.
(Holinger, Quaife, PPG, KAPS etc)
"Holinger fb page - have ready for sale our complete bolt in Toyota FT86/Subaru BRZ/Scion FRS kit.
It uses an SG Sequential 6-speed gearbox and includes everything you need to install it in the car with ZERO modification.
We can all vouch for the fact that it has taken our own standard road car and completely brought it to life

"
http://www.ttindustries.com/car_index.html (NZ locally made manual sequentials have been used in various applications)

NZSTfan · 2 Feb 2015, 05:51 (Ref:3499975)

Hey mate thanks for that info. Quite timely as we are looking at turning one of our group N subarus into a track weapon. The goal is for a 1T car with 400bhp, fully caged with a 6spd sequential box. The car is a version 4 STI RA that currently weighs just over 1100kg and is stock standard. The thing is a handful as it is now but with some sensible mods it should be good.

Thanks

CDM · 2 Feb 2015, 06:30 (Ref:3499986)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Thankfully though, as a sponsors perk we were able to get them in the garage, get the 9yo boy (whose birthday it was) into the car, and photos galore were taken. We even walked them past the Varney garage and they were so kind and let one of the 12yo girls have a sit in the Falcon.

And there in lies a problem with the self proclaimed "elitist" level of our sport.

I did some 2K cup commentating at Levels over the weekend & actively encouraged ALL the kids at the meeting to come up to the pits & sit in their favourite race car.

Now people on here will say "yes but its only a 2K cup car" but do kids know (or more importantly care) about the difference between the race car classes. If it looks like a race car with a sponsor on the side and a number on the door and they see it racing on the track, then to them its undoubtedly a racing car.

Thats totally the opposite from your scenario where they were only allowed because they were 'associated' to a team. We had masses of smiling faced kids sitting in 2K cup cars all throughout the weekend and happy parents taking pics. All adding to the great atmosphere the meeting had and hopefully ensuring that the kids drag mom & dad back next time.

socram · 2 Feb 2015, 06:52 (Ref:3499990)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDM

Thats totally the opposite from your scenario where they were only allowed because they were 'associated' to a team. We had masses of smiling faced kids sitting in 2K cup cars all throughout the weekend and happy parents taking pics.

Good post, however I have to say that the open pits layout at Hampton Downs generally allows access to most cars. Drivers have always been more than willing to let kids sit in the cars. Good on you for promoting it.

For all those years when I was only ever a paying spectator, I never realised just how approachable people were until I was a competitor and saw things from the other side of the fence.

The friendliness and general camaraderie of competitors and officials all the way from sprints and hill climbs right through to today's racers is one of the reasons I have had such a heavy involvement for so long.

Maybe you have hit on one of the things that needs to be promoted more heavily that drivers are approachable other than at organised signings and that applies to all classes, not just the perceived elite classes.

Well done.

promax · 2 Feb 2015, 07:12 (Ref:3499994)

do the Varneys actually own their ST? it's rather odd they'd spend all that money on a TLX.. just for one season.. rather than spending a hell of a lot less money on a ST co-driver seat.. if ST was their main goal.

Blackpearl · 2 Feb 2015, 07:54 (Ref:3500011)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Well, we had an interesting weekend of ups and downs, at Hampton Downs

Firstly, there is no point in glossing over the fact that the 3 ST races where terrible. First one, not so bad, last two, shocking.

My intention for the weekend was to say good bye to our trusted driver, Andre, as he embarks on his SBR career. Having not won a race in ST, that was our goal, to net him a first place. We had a really good car in qually, and managed a p3 and p2. The difference between the top 3 or 4 drivers was the closest I have seen. Difference between p1 and p2 for Q2 was 0.015 seconds...crazy close.

As I do the weather for the team, we already knew 5 days out from the meeting exactly what was going to happen. I am quite stoked from a personal point of view that the team has embraced me as a weather guru, and I seem to get it right 95% of the time, which is not bad when you are 5 days out from the meeting. I am told I am more accurate than Metservice! Initially I thought the team may have thought I was just some weather geek, but now we are really gelling as a team and my understanding of racing is improving, so I can implement that into my forecasts. We knew that at 3pm it would rain enough for wets. I was just about to make the call, and then management declared it wet, so that took some pressure off me. But we got it right, and knew about it a number of days prior. We also had a sniff of something happening mid-arvo on Saturday (2pm was the predicted time of arrival), and sure enough it came in right on 2pm. Not enough to get carried away with, but we knew it was going to happen.

So for Andre it was about giving him a good race car. Our guys did a great job, and Andres pass on D'Alberto into T1 was a piece of driving genius in my books. Andre set the fastest lap for that race, but he couldn't catch the Smeg Car of S.Evans, but he was gaining on him. It wasn't really a proper race to be fair being 15 laps long. It was kind of a qualifying session really. But we got 2nd, so that was cool.

Got there on Sunday and we started p2. we really thought we were in with a decent chance of Andre getting his first win....just gotta out-smart the Smeg car (easier said than done, but Andre has the ability). And then this boof-head called Dominic Storey did the most ridiculous move coming into T3 that ruined the race for us and others. What he was trying to do was beyond me, but he took out D'Alberto (rooted diff), Andre (twisted front of car) and this caused Andre to hit Mitch, but he was okay and ended up finishing second. Lucky Smeg..... His move also cocked up Varneys race, and it was just a stupid thing to do with only 8 cars.
You should have seen how he approached the grid for R3...wet track, comes flying into his grid box and nearly takes out half his team. I am well aware of short man syndrome, but this was something else!

Anyway, we did not look at the TV screen at all as Andres car was wheeled into the garage for repairs. It was really nice to see Owen offer some help and parts, and also some of Edgels team, and Varneys helped out too. So we were distracted with some quite considerable damage from that hit, so I just had no idea what people were seeing on TV.

Car got fixed and we started p6 for R3 (thanks again Dom

). It was wet, as mentioned, but Andre got through all of the mess and finished a credible 3rd. Not the result he wanted, but under the circumstances, quite good I reckon.

And then we came home after falling in love with the new TRS cars for their final hit-out of the round. these cars are just outstanding. They look cool, they sound cool, and go like a cut-cat from what I was told. There was some carnage over the round, but the last race was actually pretty clean. Some decided to go for wets, which was not a good move as the dry line had already formed from the ST's.

Switched on the box and started watching the telecast. I was then horrified at what I saw, which was 4 cars at one point. I should have put 2 n 2 together, but we were focused on Andres repair, and it just didn't click that there would be next to no cars out there. So the general armchair viewer would have switched off almost immediately one would think. The category has been flamed on social media, and I don't blame the people who are doing the flaming to be fair. I still love the category to bits, but this was and has to be the lowest point of the series. From here there has to be drastic changes for the next rounds, otherwise the category will lose all credibility and people will say enough is enough.

I shouted a client and his family in on the Sunday. I paid the $40 that was asked for, and my client had about 3 hours of 'action'.....c'mon. Thankfully though, as a sponsors perk we were able to get them in the garage, get the 9yo boy (whose birthday it was) into the car, and photos galore were taken. We even walked them past the Varney garage and they were so kind and let one of the 12yo girls have a sit in the Falcon. So a new 'punter' and his family travel some 3 hours to get there thinking it would be all action jackson. They still enjoyed the race (being in our pit bay), but you could tell they wanted to see more cars....who didn't? they got more of a thrill with the TRS, and so did we.

On to more positive stuff. I think it was a good move to put Mike Marsden on TV and have him declare that they are going through rough times, but have things in the pipeline...that to me is being honest with your audience. Something I like to see. Not this BS line of lies and hollow promises. That's one of the reasons there where a handful of people there. I counted more sparrows....

But my overall highlight was getting what I have always wanted from day 1 with ST...a hotlap

I went out on the Saturday with Andre at the helm and told him to 'scare me'

I was not scared at all, in fact I have never felt safer in my life. I can now honestly say with hand on heart that these machines have to be one of the best all-round touring cars on the planet. I have done a hotlap in a V8SC, which was great, but the ST was unreal. I have driven lots of fast cars in my time, so the speed is not what gets you. Its the bite of the brakes, how aggressive they stop you, and how quickly. The mid corner speed, the lateral grip....I could go on for hours. But seriously, its the best machine I have ever been in. So I've been in 4 V8 powered race cars now, an ST, a SC, a TL and a ute. Obviously you cannot compare all 4, but I would have thought the SC would have 'blown me away'....it was cool, but the ST was just amazing. If you do get a chance to have a lap, then grab it with both arms. I have not been in a TLX, but after talking at length with Shaun Varney on the weekend, he says they are night and day. I would still like to go in one though, because all things to one side for a moment, the TLX is still a fast car, so I imagine the experience would be 90% of what a ST would deliver.

But best of all was the fact that I was allowed to do some up-shifts. I have never driven a car with a sequential box before, and although I wasn't doing the driving, Andre let me do a handful of shifts as we exited T6...soooo cool

(why Holden or Ford don't make a track day car with this kind of technology is beyond me). I now crave a sequential box in my daily driver....bit impractical, but I'd like it nonetheless

So the package is good, they just need to act on their promises now, be honest with their audience (who are flaming them right now), and get more people in to these awesome machines. I hope that's what the future holds.

I took Marks advice too and spent a while talking to the Varneys about budget etc. They used the TLX as a stepping stone from TL's with the mindset that they wanted to be in ST. They confirmed that the budget was about the same. They also confirmed that their car cost a helluva lot of coin (as in close enough to buy two cars, let alone one). Nice people, and Shaun is getting the grips with the car. I liked them a lot, and will no doubt catch up with them in the future.

That's my report on things anyway. Hope everyone is well and enjoyed their weekends

Stu

Team members cant do hot laps, so are you a team member or a hanger on? rules and your post and no rule enforcement.

BackSeat Driver · 2 Feb 2015, 19:29 (Ref:3500208)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

But my overall highlight was getting what I have always wanted from day 1 with ST...a hotlap

Team members are not allowed hot laps on race weekends. That's a no-no.
Check the rules.

GHOGH · 2 Feb 2015, 19:32 (Ref:3500210)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Quite timely as we are looking at turning one of our group N subarus into a track weapon. The goal is for a 1T car with 400bhp, fully caged with a 6spd sequential box. The car is a version 4 STI RA that currently weighs just over 1100kg and is stock standard. The thing is a handful as it is now but with some sensible mods it should be good.

A Star Car is probably one of the least expensive track cars with a sequential gearbox.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/spec...-840353422.htm
The KAPS and Modena sequentials are poa.
http://www.possumbourne.co.nz/trans-and-diff-parts.html
http://youtu.be/FubiykFyW3w (Hopper WRX 6 speed sequential, it appears to work quite well when bombing down the road on a blind Targa stage)

http://youtu.be/bbKGRESi6ME (Holinger 6 speed seqential SG in Toyota 86 road car plus the expense of a motec)
They mention the SG can be fitted to the earlier Subaru motor, so the SG could? be used to make 2 wd Version 4 WRX with the EJ20 motor.

http://www.holinger.com.au/wrx-d.php (to retain 4wd and the old 5 speed with dog gears without the expense of the 6 speed sequential)

BackSeat Driver · 2 Feb 2015, 19:38 (Ref:3500211)

Oops, I see BP beat me to it.
The rule is there to stop drivers taking crew and espically tecnicians/engineers around the track which could definately gain advantage.

I know you will say you are just the weather-man, but rules are rules and it sounds like you played a big part in helping the team over the weekend.

No skin off my nose because we weren't racing, your team possibly didn't care because it was their final hit-out.

JamesK · 2 Feb 2015, 19:48 (Ref:3500216)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BackSeat Driver

Team members are not allowed hot laps on race weekends. That's a no-no.
Check the rules.

Correct:
17.3.1 Prohibitions:
(1) No Ride of any type is to be also used by any Team or Group in any way for Testing of a Car.
(2) At any Meeting Ride unless specifically permitted by V8ST, Team personnel or other people providing any technical services to a Team are excluded from being a passenger in a Car.

Just another example teams doing their own thing, irrespective of the rules, or did V8ST give specific permission for a non compliance as they have been known to have done before.

NZSTfan · 2 Feb 2015, 20:08 (Ref:3500224)

Woah! First and foremost, I am a sponsor and because of that status i asked for a hotlap and got one. I have no obligation to the team. I dont have to be there full stop. They don't tell me to be there at a certain time and i dont get paid in any way.
It just so happens that I like to be an active sponsor and help them out with things i know about that COULD be of benefit to the driver. I do not work on the car at all. I am nowhere near the car during pitstops so i guess if you want to put it crudely then i am a hanger-oner by your definition.
Hell, i had more to do with the ute and i did about 12 hotlaps in a row with them! Surprised I'm not in the jail of motorsport!
Crikey....

Thanks for the info once again GH

JamesK · 2 Feb 2015, 20:10 (Ref:3500225)

I would also assume they complied the MSNZ rule which states,
"A lap time achieved in any Meeting Ride (Hot Lap) session shall not exceed any more than 80% of the fastest lap set by that Driver earlier in the meeting, either in testing, qualifying or racing."
If so that would have been about as fast as a competitor in the Super Mini Challenge.

socram · 2 Feb 2015, 20:51 (Ref:3500241)

These "Hot Lap" rules came out last year from MSNZ and apply across the board.

It appears that Super Tourers have their own extra rules.

There is nothing stopping anyone going for a track ride/Hot Lap ride at a test day as opposed to at a race meeting, which has to be covered by a MSNZ permit therefore subject to MSNZ rules.

GT 86 · 2 Feb 2015, 21:03 (Ref:3500245)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK

I would also assume they complied the MSNZ rule which states,
"A lap time achieved in any Meeting Ride (Hot Lap) session shall not exceed any more than 80% of the fastest lap set by that Driver earlier in the meeting, either in testing, qualifying or racing."
If so that would have been about as fast as a competitor in the Super Mini Challenge.

You critics of this rule must surely be lonely at the moment and we wonder why ST has self destructed with low life irrelevant comments like that.

BackSeat Driver · 2 Feb 2015, 21:19 (Ref:3500254)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT 86

You critics of this rule must surely be lonely at the moment and we wonder why ST has self destructed with low life irrelevant comments like that.

The standard way to comply with this is to exit the pits, go once over the start finish line, then re-enter the pits.

Rules are rules and its up to the team to know them.

(GT86, did you ever tell us that other team that was guilty of having 5 people working on the car at the last endure round that you whitnessed on the tv?)

JamesK · 2 Feb 2015, 21:50 (Ref:3500267)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT 86

You critics of this rule must surely be lonely at the moment and we wonder why ST has self destructed with low life irrelevant comments like that.

There was no criticism of the rule in my post, just questioning if the rule was obeyed to give STFan the amazing ride he had.
Sorry if you feel this was a low life irrelevant comment.

CDM · 2 Feb 2015, 21:52 (Ref:3500268)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

As I do the weather for the team, we already knew 5 days out from the meeting exactly what was going to happen

...I am quite stoked from a personal point of view that the team has embraced me as a weather guru,

...but now we are really gelling as a team and my understanding of racing is improving, so I can implement that into my forecasts.

... So we were distracted with some quite considerable damage from that hit, so I just had no idea what people were seeing on TV.

Stu

I would say that the essay was definitely written by a team member, rather than a hanger-on

However I'm not surprised that there is again no enforcement of the rules from the V8ST management, that has been a major issue right from the outset of the series & it actually seems like its about the only thing they are good at

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