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Old 24 Sep 2008, 11:43 (Ref:2296857)   #126
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i guess the "great" old Jonny Reid could be the men of the situation, but better to stick to the discussion thread
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Old 24 Sep 2008, 11:45 (Ref:2296859)   #127
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Hmm, Jonny Reid didn't test in pre-season. I would chose Earl Bamber though, hes been very good lately. But yes, back to the discussion thread :P
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Old 24 Sep 2008, 15:01 (Ref:2297016)   #128
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ITALIAN F.MASTER RESULTS AND STANDINGS

Mugello 1
1.Leimer
2.Puglisi
3.Llobell

Mugello 2
1.Llobell
2.Puglisi
3.Provenzano

Imola 1
1.Leimer
2.Bamber
3.Provenzano

Imola 2
1.Bamber*
2.Leimer
3.Puglisi

Standings (4 races remaining)

1.Puglisi 57
2.Arabadzhiev 48
3.Provenzano 44
4.Leimer 28
5.Bamber 27
6.Llobell 23

*Bamber car still under observation after race 2 in Imola

Well done for Puglisi who got some good points despite racing under painkillers with a broken hand
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Old 26 Sep 2008, 12:54 (Ref:2298368)   #129
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gomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
is the italian f-master title the same as italian f3000 is to euro f3000 in f-master terms - if that makes sense...
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Old 26 Sep 2008, 13:05 (Ref:2298372)   #130
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I never figured out what is Italian F3000 for the last couple of years, but FMI is I think 6 rounds and the last 2 are together with FM. To score points towards the FMI championship, it seems you must have competed in the previous round. The I on the live-timing was for FMI racers, thus next week at Monza will be the final round for both series.
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Old 26 Sep 2008, 13:25 (Ref:2298382)   #131
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gomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgomick should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
ital f3000 is usually the italian rounds of the euro f3000 series - tho sometimes they have another round in spain or belgium etc that counts...
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Old 2 Oct 2008, 09:30 (Ref:2302604)   #132
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Ammermuller with trident in monza.
http://italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=20854&cat=32

I think its because vice-champion gets tests with trident in gp2, so he is getting prepared to it.
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Old 2 Oct 2008, 10:27 (Ref:2302660)   #133
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ital f3000 is usually the italian rounds of the euro f3000 series - tho sometimes they have another round in spain or belgium etc that counts...

So there is the main series and there is also an italian series included in the championship?? :S
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Old 2 Oct 2008, 11:20 (Ref:2302694)   #134
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It's not that difficult. There's 8 rounds all over Europe, and the ones in Italy (or somesuch) also counts towards the Italian championship at the same time.
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Old 2 Oct 2008, 12:10 (Ref:2302735)   #135
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Indeed...

2008 Euroseries 3000 calendar:

20/04 Vallelunga *
01/06 Spa
29/06 Valencia *
20/07 Mugello *
14/09 Misano *
19/10 Jerez
02/11 Barcellona
30/11 Magione

All rounds score points for the main Euroseries 3000 championship.
*These rounds also count towards the Italian F3000 championship.
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Old 2 Oct 2008, 20:31 (Ref:2303035)   #136
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Here is Formula Master discussion not Formula 3000....
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Old 2 Oct 2008, 21:46 (Ref:2303087)   #137
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Quite, back to topic...
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 10:47 (Ref:2303914)   #138
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Suze should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSuze should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSuze should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Anybody else watching this on Eurosport? 3 SC periods and about 10 laps in, some pretty appalling driving in places - commentators aren't too impressed either and think it should be stopped. I think they might have a good point....
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 11:01 (Ref:2303925)   #139
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chunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridchunder should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Have never seen such appaliing driving in my entire life!

And for me the blame lies not only at teh drivers but also the stewards who as Haven said on air, should just take some responsibility and start black flagging some of these complete morons.

THat guy Seidler was involved in 4 incidents and was eben allowed to pit and finish teh race!..

Having said that, watching the driving standards in WTCC what example do those idiots set for these younger drivers.

Never has TV been more to blame for promoting accidents as this, I can just imagine the TV people telling Freitas to just keep the show rolling, pathetic!
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 11:38 (Ref:2303948)   #140
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Two magic words, "Blocking Forbidden" would have saved so much in crash damage...
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 19:08 (Ref:2304225)   #141
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Ammermuller with trident in monza.
http://italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=20854&cat=32

I think its because vice-champion gets tests with trident in gp2, so he is getting prepared to it.
he still has to finish P2 to get that test! He couldnt even out qualify his old car! Dont know if the charge to the front was good driving, or a lot of missed chicanes, but either way, he kept clear of the shunts and finished. Although Sandtler (sp) picked him for P8 on the last corner...

Will be ironic if Leimer (ex-team mate) bumps him for P2 and takes the Trident GP2 test from him. I think if Ammermuler stayed where he was, he could have easily finished P2, and (if Van Der had any kind of problem) still had a shot at Championship...

As for the driving today, damn! i guess they all figure last race, drive crazy! The first SC was hard to tell what started it, besdies the car on the grass very out of control. The rest of the race indeed had some appauling driving! Lets hope it cleans up for tomorrow.
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Old 4 Oct 2008, 22:17 (Ref:2304342)   #142
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Give'em big fines, sponsors won't cover them, most of'em will ask parents to cover those costs or will get to pay themselves, this WILL hurt more than -10 on grid or DSQ, although Siedler is not rookie, he's experienced bloke, but it wasn't only Siedler, there were number of'em driving like complete idiots.
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Old 5 Oct 2008, 18:34 (Ref:2304844)   #143
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I watched 15 minutes or so of the second race today before it was time to switch to the infinitely better MotoGP.

Not very impressed, to be honest. I hope that if a version of this really is to become GP3 in 2010 there will be some better quality driving.
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Old 5 Oct 2008, 19:48 (Ref:2304914)   #144
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Really poor driving standards. Race 1 was reasonably exciting to watch, but it was dangerous. Anyone know why Ammermuller switched teams for the last event of the season ? surly that unsettled him abit.
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Old 6 Oct 2008, 09:12 (Ref:2305208)   #145
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because his car needed an engine change which would have meant 10 positions on the grid..... but he did not imagined that also the Trident car had to change engine... and so he got the penalty anyway! Crazy!
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Old 6 Oct 2008, 12:11 (Ref:2305324)   #146
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Kral ended the season well - finished 6th in the standings, which is good since he hadn't even scored a point till the third to last round in Germany! And in the JVA car too, which isn't exactly reputed to be the fastest.
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Old 6 Oct 2008, 14:44 (Ref:2305416)   #147
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because his car needed an engine change which would have meant 10 positions on the grid..... but he did not imagined that also the Trident car had to change engine... and so he got the penalty anyway! Crazy!
No. Wrong. His original car (the Iris Project/Jenzer Motorsport car) had a fresh engine for Imola.

Trident didn't need to change engines, but the rules state that switching teams is essentially 'changing engines as well', so that is where the 10 grid places came from.

Plus, tires are registered to the driver, and with the rules that meant he had only 3 sets for the weekend, and not the usual 5. Probably not much hope of Jenzer giving him 2 old sets, not after he bailed for the last race!

In the end, he drove clean and smart, but it was not enough. Hard to say, but it's possible that if he stayed put, he could have qualified up front, finished there, and held onto P2 in the championship.
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Old 6 Oct 2008, 17:25 (Ref:2305496)   #148
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Meh P2 or P3, both meaningless. He dropped down a series and needed to win it to prove himself, he hasn't done this, and unless he's got some good backing can't see where else he can go in single seaters.
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Old 7 Oct 2008, 07:44 (Ref:2305872)   #149
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Armermuller raced for Trident in the last race necause he will test for Trident in gp2 soon. The runner up in IFM this year wins the Trident GP2 test drive.
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Old 7 Oct 2008, 12:24 (Ref:2306064)   #150
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But Leimer finished 2nd in the standings, Ammermueller was 3rd so Leimer will get Trident test and Ammermueller WTCC test+IndyLights test, right?
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