LMS Round 1 - HTTT Paul Ricard - 2/3 April 2011 - Page 6

KA · 2 Apr 2011, 11:30 (Ref:2857284)

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Originally Posted by littleman

My guy with HPD in Ricard says the engine has excellent torque but absolutely no top end.I'm no technical wiz, so is that down to the restrictor size or something else?It just hits a brick wall on the straights - simply runs out of puff!

That certainly fits with some speed trap figures given in DSC's report...

Zytek-Nissan 282km/h
IMSA Performance GTE-Am Porsche 273km/h(!)
Strakka 266km/h
RML 265km/h

Victor_RO · 2 Apr 2011, 11:38 (Ref:2857288)

Probable "Hello Allan McNish" moment coming up...

**Bentley03** · 2 Apr 2011, 11:40 (Ref:2857291)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

A heads up for anyone who hasn't yet entered their predictions for the competition.............

Entries for Round 2 of our FANTASY RACING CHALLENGE close in less than 2 hours. Early days in the competition, so even if you missed Round 1, there's plenty of time to catch up!

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alexkiller8 · 2 Apr 2011, 11:45 (Ref:2857294)

is available some link for the streaming of qual/race ?

**Bentley03** · 2 Apr 2011, 11:47 (Ref:2857297)

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Originally Posted by alexkiller8

is available some link for the streaming of qual/race ?

Not that I'm aware of, just live timing and Radio Le Mans.

AndreasDavour · 2 Apr 2011, 11:51 (Ref:2857300)

Anybody see anything on that live timing page?

arakis · 2 Apr 2011, 11:53 (Ref:2857301)

Reception des informations, veuillez patienter!

ger80 · 2 Apr 2011, 11:57 (Ref:2857302)

found this on gteins
http://livetiming.alkamelsystems.com/lms/

911targa · 2 Apr 2011, 11:59 (Ref:2857306)

the timing...
anyway is there any news about GruppeM-Eterniti?i havent see any pic of their car,they were reported in short of drivers,is that because some of them are for VLN Rd1 today?i'm affraid they are suffering some other kinds of problems.

isynge · 2 Apr 2011, 12:00 (Ref:2857307)

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Originally Posted by ger80

found this on gteins
http://livetiming.alkamelsystems.com/lms/

And that's a lot better than the standard LMS one - cheers!

Martin90 · 2 Apr 2011, 12:03 (Ref:2857310)

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Originally Posted by ger80

found this on gteins
http://livetiming.alkamelsystems.com/lms/

Thank you!

911targa · 2 Apr 2011, 12:04 (Ref:2857311)

Jr Felbermayr is very fast today
and does it means Am #67IMSA Matmut beats Pro #76IMSA Matmut!

AndreasDavour · 2 Apr 2011, 12:06 (Ref:2857314)

ger80, thanks!

**Bentley03** · 2 Apr 2011, 12:08 (Ref:2857316)

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Originally Posted by isynge

And that's a lot better than the standard LMS one - cheers!

Yep, been following the same system on the SPEED EuroSeries website.

Andy77 · 2 Apr 2011, 12:21 (Ref:2857319)

Join the 10 Tenth Chatroom for the LMS sessions !

**Bentley03** · 2 Apr 2011, 12:56 (Ref:2857331)

That was a very determined effort from Neel Jani - congrats to Rebellion!

I'm more than a little bemused by the relative performance of the #13. My perception is that the #12 has (generally) been outperforming the #13 for the best part of a year now. It's as if the team are running different specs and set-ups on the two cars.

Victor_RO · 2 Apr 2011, 13:37 (Ref:2857340)

RML only did two out-in laps... trying to prove a point? And Strakka about 5 seconds behind LMP2 pole... that engine isn't strangled, it's being killed to death by the restrictors and the reduced boost.

Conspiracy theory: the LMP2 rules are the ACO catering to Nissan, who are partners of Renault, who are French?

chernaudi · 2 Apr 2011, 13:38 (Ref:2857342)

It seems that the performance ballancing in the LMS has worked, as the older Pescarolo has been as fast as anything out there.

Granted, it's had some work done to it (reverting back to the 5.0 Judd GV5 V10 and being allowed to run new rear body work under ACO waivers), but it's still good to see it running near the front, and if anyone deserves help in LMP1 right now from the ACO, it's Henri Pescarolo.

littleman · 2 Apr 2011, 14:13 (Ref:2857357)

Latest news from the HPD camp indicates they are not only 90bhp down but are carrying an extra 25 kilos of ballast too!Rumour's suggest the engine can produce 700bhp!

I believe the cars are fitted with ACO telemetry equipment so they can review the data after the event.Even so, it sounds like no rule review until after Spa at the earliest.

Looks like the season is effectively already over for Strakka and RML.Big shame, it would have been interesting to watch the best 2 teams in LMP2 go head-to-head,with equal equipment, for the title.

Deleted · 2 Apr 2011, 14:30 (Ref:2857372)

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Originally Posted by littleman

Latest news from the HPD camp indicates they are not only 90bhp down but are carrying an extra 25 kilos of ballast too!

Sometimes it really doesn't matter how well you've prepared your car/engine, if the governing body just doesn't like you. I can understand if ACO has messed up the engine figures, but what's with the added weight?

I know everyone kinda laughs at FIA/SRO and their nonsense performance balancing in GT3 & GT1, but this year I'm really not that impressed with ACO's scoreboard either.

BRG · 2 Apr 2011, 15:05 (Ref:2857382)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Sometimes it really doesn't matter how well you've prepared your car/engine, if the governing body just doesn't like you. I can understand if ACO has messed up the engine figures, but what's with the added weight?

I know everyone kinda laughs at FIA/SRO and their nonsense performance balancing in GT3 & GT1, but this year I'm really not that impressed with ACO's scoreboard either.

The HPD car is not a cost capped car so +20kg and about 5% smaller restrictor
Also they are only aloud 2 different downforce setting and they have chosen the non Lemans setup here

Graham Goodwin · 2 Apr 2011, 15:12 (Ref:2857383)

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Originally Posted by BRG

The HPD car is not a cost capped car so +20kg and about 5% smaller restrictor
Also they are only aloud 2 different downforce setting and they have chosen the non Lemans setup here

Almost correct - They are only allowed to run their LM package at LM so the standard package has to be a compromise for everywhere else - In this case Estoril, Spa, Imola and Silverstone as well as Paul Ricard.

Victor_RO · 2 Apr 2011, 15:12 (Ref:2857384)

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Originally Posted by BRG

The HPD car is not a cost capped car so +20kg and about 5% smaller restrictor
Also they are only aloud 2 different downforce setting and they have chosen the non Lemans setup here

5% smaller restrictor, but compared to the GTE rules for that engine, they're also slapped with a 18.75% reduction in boost pressure. That's probably the major issue in this case...

R4z3rw33n · 2 Apr 2011, 15:19 (Ref:2857386)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

RML only did two out-in laps... trying to prove a point? And Strakka about 5 seconds behind LMP2 pole... that engine isn't strangled, it's being killed to death by the restrictors and the reduced boost.

Conspiracy theory: the LMP2 rules are the ACO catering to Nissan, who are partners of Renault, who are French?

Seems as if the series has shafted an already dedicated marque (with an established customer base) for another that, at present, has only decided to wet its toes.

Can't argue with that logic.

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Originally Posted by BRG

The HPD car is not a cost capped car so +20kg and about 5% smaller restrictor
Also they are only aloud 2 different downforce setting and they have chosen the non Lemans setup here

Obviously the parity system isn't working so well. RML/Strakka were reporting a 15-20km/h speed differential between class rivals.

As with everything else exciting, enjoyable or just plain logical, politics rears its ugly head to ruin the day.

Victor_RO · 2 Apr 2011, 15:21 (Ref:2857389)

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Originally Posted by R4z3rw33n

Seems as if the series has shafted an already dedicated marque (with an established customer base) for another that, at present, has only decided to wet its toes.

Can't argue with that logic.

It was just a throwaway remark, hence the

at the end.

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