WEC 2012 WEC Entries - Page 6

**joeb** · 2 Nov 2011, 13:07 (Ref:2980618)

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Originally Posted by R4z3rw33n

Just what I was thinking.

Two different teams, both Gulf-sponsored, competing against one another.

It's good news, none the less - for the WEC and the category.

Has Oak confirmed a Gulf sponsorship deal for next season?

lms · 2 Nov 2011, 13:17 (Ref:2980628)

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Originally Posted by KA

though he suggests the choice is between Lola, Oreca and staying with Zytek

too bad the new lmp2 HPD is not an option for them

I hope SOMEONE will run that car next year

R4z3rw33n · 2 Nov 2011, 13:36 (Ref:2980636)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Has Oak confirmed a Gulf sponsorship deal for next season?

Not that I'm aware of. That could be something to consider.

Although, as far as I'm aware, OAK's backing was received from a different regional affiliate to that of Gulf Racing - fairly sure I've read that somewhere.

Coach Ep · 2 Nov 2011, 14:24 (Ref:2980663)

Re Gulf sponsorship:

Gulf International -> AMR
Gulf France -> OAK
Gulf UAE -> First (Giroix)

With the expected entry from AMR in GTE with 2 Vantages and 3 (?) cars from OAK (presuming they keep the same numbers of cars as this year) we could see up to 7 Gulf liveried cars in the WEC the coming season! That´s gotta be a record.

The Badger · 2 Nov 2011, 16:46 (Ref:2980721)

I think its looks horrible . Nice nostalgic idea , but fails dismally .

Looked or on the GT1 LcLaren and Aston and AMR/Lola ..... but the Lambo , Oak and this doesnt work for me .

Still , good to see 2 more cars there , especially since DP is in charge of the effort .

Pandamasque · 2 Nov 2011, 17:30 (Ref:2980739)

I'm sure the real thing will look waaay better. Whoever did the render didn't even get the colours right.

Simmi · 2 Nov 2011, 18:32 (Ref:2980761)

Does anyone know if the Gulf Lolas were what Radio Le Mans were meant to be announcing tonight? Hope not but I'm assuming so.

KA · 2 Nov 2011, 18:51 (Ref:2980769)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lms

too bad the new lmp2 HPD is not an option for them

I hope SOMEONE will run that car next year

IIRC the interview stated that the HPD wasn't an option because they were committed to the Nissan engine

FstrthnU · 2 Nov 2011, 20:15 (Ref:2980796)

http://www.planetlemans.com/2011/11/...ns+Newsfeed%29
In case anyone wants it, here's Planet Le mans interviewing Tim Greaves about the new plans. They say that the logistics will be tough (LMS 1 weekend, WEC next), but they'll try to manage them. There's also some comments on the other LMP2 cars.

http://www.planetlemans.com/2011/11/...ns+Newsfeed%29
And here's the post on Gulf Racing LMP2. It's just described as a "Lola", no engine choices yet...

Simmi · 2 Nov 2011, 20:15 (Ref:2980797)

Thinking more about the Gulf Lolas I hope that they really try to maximise the driver line-up in one of the cars. More LMP2 machinery is all well and good but even better if one of them is a competitive car, especially with Strakka making the step up.

JAG · 2 Nov 2011, 21:37 (Ref:2980825)

Few notes from tonight's MWM.

- Lola's 2012 P1/P2 will look noticably different, spent 7 weeks in the wind tunnel. Talk about Brundle's potential program from Hindy on his visit to Lola, but nothing mentioned by Lola.

- Looking like Rebellion in the WEC, upgraded engine, spent time in the tunnel at Cologne before the factory announcement.

- Big and suprising entrant announcements coming covering P1, P2 and GTE (Am specifically mentioned).

- Sepang a possibility, in addition to China and Japan, Brazil likely, Spa and Silverstone almost confirmed.

- Looks like GTC's will be allowed at Sebring, they'll be part of the ALMS' race.

- Blancpain could move a car/sponsorship from FIA GT1 to another series, at least that's what I think was said, maybe unreleated to the WEC.

LeMans.pt · 2 Nov 2011, 21:56 (Ref:2980834)

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Originally Posted by JAG

- Sepang a possibility, in addition to China and Japan, Brazil likely, Spa and Silverstone almost confirmed.

Plus Sebring and Le Mans... 8 rounds! Could it be?

AndrewF31 · 2 Nov 2011, 22:31 (Ref:2980851)

There they go stretching the budgets with more races in Asia then the other 2 'continents'.

The Badger · 2 Nov 2011, 23:46 (Ref:2980880)

LMP1

2x Audi Sport R18
2x Peugeot Sport 908
2x Strakka HPD
1x ? HPD
2x Rebellion Lola-Toyota
2x Toyota
1/2x Pescarolo Sport Pescarolo-Judd
2x OAK Racing Pescarolo-Judd
1x Hope PoleVision ORECA Hybrid
1x Mik Corse Zytek Hybrid

LMP2

1x Greaves Motorsport ?-Nissan
2x Signatech ORECA-Nissan
2x Level 5 HPD
2X Gulf Middle East Lola/?

GTE Pro/Am

2x AF corse Ferrari ..... 458
2x Luxory Racing Ferrari ..... 458
1x Krohn Racing Ferrari ..... 458
2x Labre Corvette ..... C6R GT2
2x Team Felbermayr Proton Porsche ..... 997
2x Jetalliance Lotus
2x AMR Aston Martin

Speed-King · 2 Nov 2011, 23:50 (Ref:2980881)

At Krohn everything is still up in the air, waiting for schedules to be finalized and I am not sure if they'd buy a 458 quite yet.

The Badger · 3 Nov 2011, 01:31 (Ref:2980899)

What ..... with the kinda wedge Tracy has , he could have a fleet of'em !!!

So , if they stay in Am , they may still use a 430 ..... I suppose its still a well sorted and quick machine for Am class . Though I dont expect to see too many of them next year .

lms · 3 Nov 2011, 03:08 (Ref:2980912)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

LMP1
1x ? HPD

What is that? Muscle Milk?

Canada ALMS fan · 3 Nov 2011, 03:20 (Ref:2980914)

MWM said that JetAlliance and Lotus may have gone separate ways...

AGD · 3 Nov 2011, 03:41 (Ref:2980917)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FstrthnU

In case anyone wants it, here's Planet Le mans interviewing Tim Greaves about the new plans. They say that the logistics will be tough (LMS 1 weekend, WEC next), but they'll try to manage them. There's also some comments on the other LMP2 cars.

These are some really interesting comments. The comment I found most interesting was him admitting that the Norma is one LMP2 chassis that really fits within the true spirit of the cost-capped rules. Many of us figured that was true anyway, but it is interesting to see a competing team boss saying that it is true. Even with all that said, it seems like the Norma might have some potential in the right hands. It already has one podium under it's belt with a very amateur type effort.

It would be truly amazing if nobody runs the Zytek in LMP2 next year after the type of season they had in 2011. Maybe Greaves or someone else will choose the Zytek, but I don't know. Greaves certainly has flattering words for the Lola coupe and the Oreca 03 even if he says the Oreca has had some issues in the hands of other teams. His comments about the Oak Pescarolo are also a bit interesting if a bit brief. But, yeah, we'll have to see how that plays out. I'm sure the Zytek will get serious consideration.

Perhaps the best news today with the Gulf Middle East (I wonder if Al Masaood may run part-time in one of those LMP2s?) and Greaves announcements is that the LMS is retaining their LMP2 teams so far. That's great news. If this holds up, we may continue to see some great racing in the LMS next year for overall wins. I guess the unfortunate situation is that it will be quite difficult for full-time non-WEC LMS teams to get an entry at Le Mans, but we kind of knew that would be the case. F'in DeltaWing stealing a spot. Ugh.

This is probably unrelated to the WEC but somewhat relevant to the LMP2 discussion, but has anyone heard any updates from WR? I know they were quite upset about not being even on the Le Mans reserve list last year. Should we expect anything from them in 2012?

Asa · 3 Nov 2011, 08:27 (Ref:2980954)

BMW not taking part in WEC? Are they allowed to switch teams like they do now with the ILMC?

R4z3rw33n · 3 Nov 2011, 08:33 (Ref:2980956)

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Originally Posted by AGD

This is probably unrelated to the WEC but somewhat relevant to the LMP2 discussion, but has anyone heard any updates from WR? I know they were quite upset about not being even on the Le Mans reserve list last year. Should we expect anything from them in 2012?

Last I'd heard about WR were their plans to construct a customer diesel P1 engine from 80% Peugeot components.
That was quite a while ago. So I'm guessing those plans have since been shelved.

The Badger · 3 Nov 2011, 08:36 (Ref:2980959)

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Originally Posted by lms

What is that? Muscle Milk?

Dunno , that was on the list whet it was put up , not by me .

AGD · 3 Nov 2011, 10:28 (Ref:2981010)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asa

BMW not taking part in WEC? Are they allowed to switch teams like they do now with the ILMC?

BMW will not have a factory WEC team next year according to everything that has been stated so far. BMW will focus on their DTM program. The ALMS program will seemingly continue on for 2012. There's some talks about privateers getting M3s, but nothing is solid on that front yet it seems.

ubrben · 3 Nov 2011, 12:33 (Ref:2981051)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

At Krohn everything is still up in the air, waiting for schedules to be finalized and I am not sure if they'd buy a 458 quite yet.

Or not...

Ben

Robbo28 · 3 Nov 2011, 13:25 (Ref:2981073)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

At Krohn everything is still up in the air, waiting for schedules to be finalized and I am not sure if they'd buy a 458 quite yet.

The 430 is for sale: http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...hn_racing.html

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