2016 Rolex 24 Entry List - Page 6

Deleted · 3 Jan 2016, 12:47 (Ref:3601775)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

He couldn't afford one on the poor wage at Toyota

Good one

canamman · 3 Jan 2016, 13:22 (Ref:3601782)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I'm looking forward to the 24 hour FCY discussion.

Especially the debris one with 5 mins to go !

Deleted · 3 Jan 2016, 13:35 (Ref:3601784)

They might just as well have scheduled "competition caution" for the end instead on those phantom cautions, I mean we all already know one is coming to punch it up for the "closest finish evar" so we might just as well get over some on the anger by having precise timing of it beforehand...

Anyway, I remember last year when Shank took the Daytona pole, and people over at the GARRA forums cried how biased bop the P2s have received and how they'll now win every round easily... hehhe... will same happen now too

Matt · 3 Jan 2016, 17:14 (Ref:3601834)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I'm looking forward to the 24 hour FCY discussion.

Same.

chernaudi · 3 Jan 2016, 17:42 (Ref:3601843)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

They might just as well have scheduled "competition caution" for the end instead on those phantom cautions, I mean we all already know one is coming to punch it up for the "closest finish evar" so we might just as well get over some on the anger by having precise timing of it beforehand...

Anyway, I remember last year when Shank took the Daytona pole, and people over at the GARRA forums cried how biased bop the P2s have received and how they'll now win every round easily... hehhe... will same happen now too

You can't BOP for gentleman drivers being in the LMP2 cars, or in the DP cars for that matter. You can put Audi's and Porsche's WEC and Le Mans dream teams in a car, but it won't make up for a gentleman driver being slow or error prone.

The #20 Dyson R&S Ford won Daytona in '97, mostly because the #16--with Dyson's full season drivers for both of their cars, and hence an all pro line up--blew an engine half way though the race, but the #20 was still in contention mostly because everyone ahead of them kept having problems. But with the gentleman drivers in the car--including the team's owner in the form of the experienced but aged Rob Dyson--they couldn't win against the surviving Scandia Ferrari, even when one considers that Andy Evans--a gentleman driver who by then raced only part time--wasn't as fast as his team mates in the same car.

So they stuffed all 4 of the #16's drivers into the #20 and won in spite of their car getting ready to grenade an engine. Though in all fairness, the Scandia Ferrari wasn't in a ton better shape with brake and gearbox problems. This of course was the pre-Audi era in sportscar racing, where races over 6 hours long were often won by cars that used a legitimate and deliberate slow and steady approach (running several seconds off qualifying pace--the Audi era is marked by having cars run consistently close to qualifying times even in 24 hour races without difficulty) or had to work around some problem with reliability/durability of their cars.

We also have to remember that even the ALMS tried to do that for ESM vs Risi in the ALMS with team specific BOP to make up for the fact that ESM ran gentleman drivers/aged veterans in their cars as opposed to Risi. Didn't help ESM much as far as winning against Risi or anyone else.

BOP can't make up for old age, inexperience or that a guy's in a car just as much or more for the money he brings vs his talent or performance behind the wheel.

Not all gentleman drivers are bad, and quite a few are very good at racing. But only those who put in the time and effort to get very good like the late Paul Newman, Steve McQueen, and in more contemporary times, DHH, Scott Tucker (irrespective of his questionable business dealings), and our very own forum member Mike Hedlund.

BSchneiderFan · 3 Jan 2016, 19:14 (Ref:3601864)

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Originally Posted by manthey

just for curiosity, is it exactly the same one given to the 24h Le Mans winners?

I must confess I have no idea, but I would imagine they are different.

**skycafe** · 3 Jan 2016, 19:31 (Ref:3601870)

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Originally Posted by manthey

just for curiosity, is it exactly the same one given to the 24h Le Mans winners?

I did a bit of poking around and in both cases the watches are Cosmograph Daytonas, inscribed with either a Daytona or LeMans message, as suitable.

**skycafe** · 3 Jan 2016, 19:33 (Ref:3601871)

I found this, and several other links http://www.watch-insider.com/reporta...nner-is-rolex/

Deleted · 3 Jan 2016, 23:08 (Ref:3601909)

There's been couple of revisions to the pre-Roar bop tables already and one of them is setting the SMP at 890kg a la 50kg lighter than the Oak/"Ligier" coupé (and the theoretical HPD)...
http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...0000003%29.pdf

JHamilton · 4 Jan 2016, 02:15 (Ref:3601924)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I'm looking forward to the 24 hour FCY discussion.

The last one was really unnecessary and impacted the results.

MaskedRacer · 4 Jan 2016, 13:06 (Ref:3601992)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

The last one was really unnecessary and impacted the results.

In 2014 certainly. That was THE worst full course yellow thrown out in the history of north american sportscar racing. Second worst being the last one in the following race which was the sebring debacle.

In 2015 the 54 Oreca had a fire on track during the last hour so no just complaints there.

I just hope this year we have as few yellows as possible for the reasons mentioned in this discussion thread. However if the yellows do occur I hope it is in the first 3 hours and get them out of the way.

Coach Ep · 4 Jan 2016, 14:38 (Ref:3601998)

IMSA has made no changes to their FCY procedures so what do you expect?

At least the cautions will give the speedway plenty of opportunity to showcase their new stadium.

MaskedRacer · 4 Jan 2016, 19:30 (Ref:3602047)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

IMSA has made no changes to their FCY procedures so what do you expect?

At least the cautions will give the speedway plenty of opportunity to showcase their new stadium.

In reference to this comment I do expect that after the race is 2-3 hours old early Sat evening. FCY's should provide a window to leave the speedway briefly to get some errands done.

Deleted · 4 Jan 2016, 20:24 (Ref:3602056)

They probably had scheduled GWC FCY bunching upper for the finish last year too but the flaming LMPC took care of that formality the 'clean way'

Btw there's 20 something cars for CTSCC pretest
http://sportscar365.com/imsa/ctscc/2...24-entry-list/

That series is nearing shambles state too. Even if the race doubles the amount of that test, you know 40-50 cars or whatever, it's still just around 50-60% of what they had couple of years ago at the same race.

airbusA346 · 4 Jan 2016, 21:30 (Ref:3602069)

Frikadelli driver line up:

- Frank Stippler
- Patrick Huisman
- Sven Mueller
- Connor De Phillippi

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/fr...lex-24-lineup/

morningview66 · 4 Jan 2016, 21:49 (Ref:3602079)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

Frikadelli driver line up:

- Frank Stippler
- Patrick Huisman
- Sven Mueller
- Connor De Phillippi

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/fr...lex-24-lineup/

So does this mean Stippler has moved from Audi to Porsche?
Or has he always just been a gun for hire with close links to Audi?

BullMan · 4 Jan 2016, 21:51 (Ref:3602080)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

There's been couple of revisions to the pre-Roar bop tables already and one of them is setting the SMP at 890kg a la 50kg lighter than the Oak/"Ligier" coupé (and the theoretical HPD)...
http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...0000003%29.pdf

I notice the 488 GT3 isn't on there. 458 GT3 is. 488 GTE is.

airbusA346 · 4 Jan 2016, 21:56 (Ref:3602082)

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Originally Posted by morningview66

So does this mean Stippler has moved from Audi to Porsche?
Or has he always just been a gun for hire with close links to Audi?

Stippler has driven for Frikadelli several times in VLN.

Coach Ep · 4 Jan 2016, 22:28 (Ref:3602090)

Sabine Schmitz is no longer listed...

rich07 · 5 Jan 2016, 00:19 (Ref:3602113)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Sabine Schmitz is no longer listed...

You would've thought that they would've kept her on for good PR, not withstanding that she's a very good driver but it seems they've gone with Daytona experience instead.

Miguel · 5 Jan 2016, 08:44 (Ref:3602179)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

Frikadelli driver line up:

- Frank Stippler
- Patrick Huisman
- Sven Mueller
- Connor De Phillippi

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/fr...lex-24-lineup/

Connor De Phillippi was a beast last year in VLN with Frikadelli. Smart move. Awesome line up. Someone wants to win.

Victor_RO · 5 Jan 2016, 08:45 (Ref:3602180)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

Frikadelli driver line up:

- Frank Stippler
- Patrick Huisman
- Sven Mueller
- Connor De Phillippi

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/fr...lex-24-lineup/

Klaus Abbelen is still driving, the car will have a 5-driver line-up. Abbelen and Huisman are the "Am" drivers listed in the car.

airbusA346 · 5 Jan 2016, 09:04 (Ref:3602182)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Klaus Abbelen is still driving, the car will have a 5-driver line-up. Abbelen and Huisman are the "Am" drivers listed in the car.

Missed the last bit where it says 5 drivers.

As Dagys mentioned on Twitter. By racing at Daytona, they have become the first team in Europe to get the 991 GT3 R.

Victor_RO · 5 Jan 2016, 09:09 (Ref:3602183)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

As Dagys mentioned on Twitter. By racing at Daytona, they have become the first team in Europe to get the 991 GT3 R.

Didn't they receive it late last year and tried to race it in the last VLN race of 2015?

Matt · 6 Jan 2016, 02:50 (Ref:3602410)

Gonna be at the race.

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