NZV8 Touring Cars - Page 6

promax · 22 Jul 2004, 09:20 (Ref:1042955)

so mac is driving for tracer motorsport.. what about paul p?
http://www.car.co.nz/race.asp?articleid=5758

Evomike · 22 Jul 2004, 20:43 (Ref:1043879)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Keener
Evo OTR had Puke booked today so the only possible newcomers must be friends of theirs.On the subject of TKR New Zealand racer 2nd page TKR QUITS NZ V8 TC.Bye bye.

You sound perversly happy about that Keener? Why?
And the OTR Puke thing you are correct about that

Mr Keener · 22 Jul 2004, 21:05 (Ref:1043896)

Not happy at all.I personnally liked nothing better than watching OTR and TKR scrap at the track.I thought a great sporting rivally was forming.Always maintained they where good for the sport in NZ.Anyway they are now goooone and I assume Evo you will have to go and play in the Aussie forums cause this one is for NZV8 Touring Cars.

Evomike · 22 Jul 2004, 21:09 (Ref:1043901)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Keener
Not happy at all.I personnally liked nothing better than watching OTR and TKR scrap at the track.I thought a great sporting rivally was forming.Always maintained they where good for the sport in NZ.Anyway they are now goooone and I assume Evo you will have to go and play in the Aussie forums cause this one is for NZV8 Touring Cars.

We will see

Who said my involvement with NZV8 Touring cars is over

How did I know about OTR at Puke

Mr Keener · 22 Jul 2004, 21:18 (Ref:1043907)

Maybe the transporter 4 cars bus van and several plated ORIX staff cars gave it away?Maybe a mate of one of the drivers told you.Maybe your physic.Maybe your joining them as their third driver.

304 · 22 Jul 2004, 21:36 (Ref:1043924)

I heard Paul and Andy were doing lap rides all day and some Journo's got to have a skid later on so not sure who the 'newcomer' is.
Maybe 'Mad' Mike Stock from Autotrader is going to make a championship bid?

Evomike · 22 Jul 2004, 23:23 (Ref:1044002)

Quote:

Originally posted by 304
I heard Paul and Andy were doing lap rides all day and some Journo's got to have a skid later on so not sure who the 'newcomer' is.
Maybe 'Mad' Mike Stock from Autotrader is going to make a championship bid?

Nope. and I am not telling

Like I said Who said my involvement with NZV8 Touring Cars is over?......

Evomike · 23 Jul 2004, 02:47 (Ref:1044089)

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr Keener
Not happy at all.I personnally liked nothing better than watching OTR and TKR scrap at the track.I thought a great sporting rivally was forming.Always maintained they where good for the sport in NZ.Anyway they are now goooone and I assume Evo you will have to go and play in the Aussie forums cause this one is for NZV8 Touring Cars.

Who said that rivalry won't continue?? Same drivers, same battle, only difference is this time the cars will be painted in the same colours

Mr Keener · 23 Jul 2004, 04:20 (Ref:1044113)

And what beautiful colours they are too.Ok then Evo you can stay.

Evomike · 23 Jul 2004, 04:34 (Ref:1044114)

Press Release released this avo

Team Kiwi Racing
Jul 23 2004
TKR TO FOCUS SOLELY ON V8 SUPERCAR CAMPAIGN FOR NEXT 12 MONTHS

Reigning NZ V8 Touring Car Champions, Team Kiwi Racing have announced today that they will be focusing all their attentions on the teams V8 Supercar Campaign for the next 12 months.

The decision to focus solely on the teams V8 Supercar Campaign for the next 12 months is a joint decision between the teams sponsors and TKR owner David John.

"For the last four years the TKR sponsors and myself have been bending over backwards to provide the opportunities we have to up and coming Kiwi drivers in the NZ Touring Car Championships, while also running the teams V8 Supercar program"

"With costs increasing in both the NZ V8 Touring Car Championship and the V8 Supercar Championship this year, TKR need to ensure we are doing justice to our sponsors and supporters by maximising TKR's potential in one Championship instead of trying to do two Championships only half as well". Said Team Owner David John.

With the V8 Supercar Championship going to Shanghai, The Peoples Republic of China next year, the talk of a Street Race/Festival in Auckland, Tasmania joining the V8 Supercar Championship and the expansion plans in place for the V8 Supercar Series as a whole on a global basis, one can understand the importance for TKR to maximise the best start to a season in the V8 Supercar Championship they have had to date.

Team Kiwi Racing are currently 13th in the Australian V8 Supercar Championship after being as high as 6th position and are currently ahead of Holden Racing teams Mark Skaife and many other big budget, big named teams, none of whom compete in other motorsport championships outside of the V8 Supercar Series and or Konica Minolta V8 Supercar Championship.

"I do not think anyone can say TKR and their sponsors have not provided plenty of opportunities over the last few seasons for Kiwi drivers and crew members, especially when you consider they have three National Championship titles/events, one being the 2.Oltr Touring Car Championship, one NZ V8 Touring Car Championship, the L/K 500 Endurance race title and a third position in the NZ V8 Touring Car Championship to their name, all in only four years"

"On top of that TKR have a 100% finish rate at Bathurst, one of only a handful of teams to have done so, also providing Jason Richards with his career start in V8 Supercars, Angus Fogg, John McIntyre, Mark Porter and Myself V8 Supercar opportunities as well as Andy Booth, John McIntyre and Nick Ross NZ V8 Touring Car opportunities. All on a very limited budget compared to the competition". Says Craig Baird

"When you look back over the last few years TKR has achieved a substantial amount but in saying that we have not fully realised our potential on the international stage as running costs have continued to increase year by year therefore seeing TKR trying to do too much on too little, which has held back the V8 Supercar development"

"I believe it is better for TKR to now focus for the next 12 months on establishing ourselves as a force to be reckoned with in the V8 Supercar Championship and continue to build on the performance and technical gains we have made at TKR this year". Said Team Manager Martin Collins

TKR have also put forward to Motorsport New Zealand the opportunity for the recent graduates from the Elite Motorsport Academy to be taken to Australia with TKR at the teams cost, so they can be evaluated for full time job positions on the teams V8 Supercar crew, while also ensuring an element of reality is instilled into all Elite Graduates from drivers to mechanics to data analysts to team managers etc of what it is going to take to get to the international level full time as a driver and or crew member.

Mike Sentch from Christchurch who is TKR's number one V8 Supercar preparation specialist will spend time with the Elite Academy crew members and put into perspective the reality of working on a V8 Supercar team, as well as evaluating the Academy crew members for a full time position with the team.

Each driver and crew member from the Motorsport Elite Academy will spend at least one race weekend with the team after the week prior having been spent in the TKR workshop facilities.

Craig Baird will spend time with Drivers to ensure they are aware of the pit falls of being too eager and not understanding the bigger picture of a team and or the Championship they are wanting to become involved with, something Baird himself openly admits he can talk about from experience and learning the hard way.

"It took me a number of years to understand that there is more to getting a full time position with a top level motorsport team than being the fastest driver out there on the race track"

"I just wish I had someone like the Motorsport Elite Academy and TKR combining together to ensure I was more worldly in terms of understanding the bigger picture when I first started my career on the international stage and most importantly had some one already involved at that international level that put the reality into the situation, not just talked about the positives and fun sides of the opportunity". Said Baird

As for Nick Ross who drove the second car for TKR in the NZ V8 Touring Car Championship last year, TKR has provided him with the free use of all TKR's NZ V8 Touring Car equipment, transporter, marquees and franchise for the coming NZ V8 Touring Car season.

"TKR have been great to me and my family over the last season and it was a true eye opener to see how these guys at TKR kept up with competing in both the NZ V8 Touring Car and V8 Supercar Championships at the same time."

"I would have loved to run under the TKR banner again this coming season in the NZ V8 Touring Car Championship but fully understand TKR's decision and support that initiative"

"TKR have not left me high and dry either with the supply of tools, equipment, marquees, their NZ V8 Touring Car franchise to run under and their transporter for the coming season of which I am very grateful for". Says Ross.

TKR V8 Supercar driver Craig Baird will contest this years Trans Tasman Porsche series again in New Zealand in addition to his V8 Supercar and TKR Academy commitments should Motorsport New Zealand wish to take up the Academy offer put forward from TKR.

TKR also have one round remaining in the Konica Minolta V8 Supercar Championship where they are running Mark Porter who is currently sitting in 4th position.

Porter will co drive with Baird at this years Betta Electrical Sandown 500 event and Bathurst endurance races in the All Black TKR V8 Supercar.

nicko · 23 Jul 2004, 06:55 (Ref:1044193)

I guess all we care about is that TKR are in the main series.

Im sure the NZ Touring car series (tier 1) will be better than ever, even if TKR are not going to be there.

Mr Keener · 23 Jul 2004, 08:06 (Ref:1044242)

Now now Nicko to some of us here in NZ the NZV8 Touring cars are the main series.

nicko · 23 Jul 2004, 08:11 (Ref:1044247)

hey dont get me wrong, I cant wait for the start of the NZ v8 touring season (especially to see the cars that I design)

TKR#1 · 23 Jul 2004, 08:34 (Ref:1044270)

Well I'm gutted. Now I only get to show up at one event a year to wave my flag like a maniac

( and twelve times around the lounge

)
BUT, I also fully support the reason why. Keep going and give those B*$+@&d aussies heaps TKR

Evomike · 23 Jul 2004, 10:37 (Ref:1044405)

Quote:

Originally posted by TKR#1
Well I'm gutted. Now I only get to show up at one event a year to wave my flag like a maniac ( and twelve times around the lounge )
BUT, I also fully support the reason why. Keep going and give those B*$+@&d aussies heaps TKR

If Nick Ross manages to put something together using the TKR infrastruture I will support him. Nick if your reading this, if you need anything just give us a call.

Mr Keener · 23 Jul 2004, 22:08 (Ref:1045109)

Aawwh Evo after all we have been through together I had saved you a seat on the OTR bus.Oh well see you at Puke in October.

Freak · 24 Jul 2004, 00:31 (Ref:1045203)

If Nick Ross has a brain between those listening ears, he will bail out of TKR. If he hasn't learnt the meaning of the word "shafted" yet, like many others associated with TKR and past members of special TKR acadameys then something is very wrong. I think TKR must have taken a leaf out of the governments book when it comes to out and out lies, b*##*@%t and bribery.

304 · 24 Jul 2004, 01:04 (Ref:1045208)

Easy buddy, we don't wan't to get this thread locked again and have to start all over.
i'm sure Nick Ross has enough of a brain to take advantage of any assistance available to him. Nothing comes easy in NZ Motorsport and if someone is offering to help him run next season via the use of facilities than he should grab it. Sure TKR have a history of losing disillusioned drivers but who know's what Nick was offered up front? perhaps not the suposed M/sport Nirvana dangled in front of others

Evomike · 24 Jul 2004, 01:59 (Ref:1045215)

Quote:

Originally posted by Freak
If Nick Ross has a brain between those listening ears, he will bail out of TKR. If he hasn't learnt the meaning of the word "shafted" yet, like many others associated with TKR and past members of special TKR acadameys then something is very wrong. I think TKR must have taken a leaf out of the governments book when it comes to out and out lies, b*##*@%t and bribery.

Obviously as this is your first post you have not had the advantage of actually being in position of having all the facts previously posted in this forum. We have covered this at length, the people who have claimed to have been "shafted" by TKR were in fact the ones who were doing the shafting. Quite frankly if you have an issue with it get off your ass and do something yourself, as well as suppoting TKR i am supporting new talent as well. Stop moaning and do something. If this sounds harsh, I make no apologies, I have put my money where my mouth is.

Evomike · 24 Jul 2004, 02:01 (Ref:1045217)

and I think if we look at where TKR are in qualifying 2nd in the first session and currently fastest in the second we can see what focussing can do. Imagine what they can do if they have 12 months of focus

promax · 24 Jul 2004, 02:16 (Ref:1045218)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nicko
[B]I guess all we care about is that TKR are in the main series.QUOTE]

speak for yourself!!!

i bet more people would rather see tkr race at home as well as the v8 supercar series!

nicko · 24 Jul 2004, 05:41 (Ref:1045320)

Well if they dont get the cash they need they wont be racing in any series, so im glad they can put all their money into one championship.
Anyway 4th place in qualifying for TKR!!!!

nicko · 24 Jul 2004, 06:35 (Ref:1045360)

TKR ON POLE

promax · 24 Jul 2004, 07:01 (Ref:1045378)

you're missing the point.. as usual.

nicko · 24 Jul 2004, 07:09 (Ref:1045384)

Ok i should have said "all I care about" instead of "all we care about" because I guess many supporters and sponsors would love to c TKR race in the NZ series. But for me if TKR wernt in the main series I probally wouldnt watch it, so as long as they can keep in the main series ill be happy

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