2005 DTM car count - Page 6

kmchow · 22 Jan 2005, 19:13 (Ref:1207323)

But looking at Holzer's '04 lineup of drivers, didn't they all struggle? Perhaps Opel thought that the other teams could do a better job running the drivers and prepping the cars?

**FIRE** · 22 Jan 2005, 19:28 (Ref:1207341)

Opel enters only 4 cars instead of 7 so an expanded team is enough. Beside that Opel wants to run the car by themself (or at least be more involved), so they formed a team of engineers and mechanics from the people of OPC and Phoenix (and maybe some people from Holzer).

kmchow · 22 Jan 2005, 22:02 (Ref:1207408)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Opel enters only 4 cars instead of 7 so an expanded team is enough. Beside that Opel wants to run the car by themself (or at least be more involved), so they formed a team of engineers and mechanics from the people of OPC and Phoenix (and maybe some people from Holzer).

And Opel doesn't want to bother racing the Astra's since they're so heavily outclassed?

Hazard · 23 Jan 2005, 00:41 (Ref:1207515)

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And Opel doesn't want to bother racing the Astra's since they're so heavily outclassed?

What does that make the Vectra's?

**FIRE** · 1 Feb 2005, 19:01 (Ref:1214872)

Markus Winkelhock will NOT drive in DTM. The young German will drive for Draco in World Series by Renault championship. Source: www.italiaracing.net

flor · 1 Feb 2005, 19:35 (Ref:1214901)

Team Mücke will only have one car for Stefan Mücke, they are a private team, which means they get the car and parts from mercedes but have to pay everything else with sponsor money

kmchow · 2 Feb 2005, 03:33 (Ref:1215160)

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Originally Posted by flor

Team Mücke will only have one car for Stefan Mücke, they are a private team, which means they get the car and parts from mercedes but have to pay everything else with sponsor money

Hey, this is great news! So MB is finally taking my advice!!

They're leasing their cars to Privateers to build up the grid. It's too bad not more teams (V8 Star??) could step up to the plate??

I wonder how much the lease rate for a '04 MB C Class is??? Any downpayment?

John Winter · 5 Feb 2005, 00:24 (Ref:1217882)

Mercedes has released a press report today saying 7 Mercedes C-classes will race in 2005 in the DTM.

Bernd Schneider, Gary Paffett, Jean Alesi and Mika Häkkinen will drive a 2005 C-class for HWA Racing.
Jamie Green will drive a 2005 C-class for Persson Motorsport and Bruno Sprengler will drive a 2004 C-class for Persson Motorsport.
Stefan Mücke will drive a 2004 C-class for Mücke Motorsport.

This brings the total of cars for the 2005 season to 19. Let's hope MG will enter!

+ its a Chevy · 5 Feb 2005, 01:05 (Ref:1217896)

Rumour had it that Opel will pull the Vectra entry as it is such a dog. the VXR astra was being touted as a significant replacement in both this and BTCC cirlces but it has proven to be a 'bit of a *****' in setting up - more to follow soon i think....

JMeissner · 5 Feb 2005, 01:19 (Ref:1217899)

Well, "+ its a Chevy", you haven't really been following the development of Opel's commitment to the DTM now have you?

+ its a Chevy · 5 Feb 2005, 02:08 (Ref:1217922)

to be honest , no i haven't , just put my two pennies in from what i've heard in the uk from working fairly closely at Vauxhall - but then there's no shock really !!! Was only offering sn opinion and didnt mean to offend.....jeez

kmchow · 5 Feb 2005, 03:49 (Ref:1217953)

Opel is definitely outgunned with only 4 entries? They'll be outnumbered 2 to 1.

flor · 5 Feb 2005, 06:13 (Ref:1217974)

they dont have the budget to run more cars and all of their 4 cars are new cars, Audi has 4 new and Mercedes 5 new cars...

kmchow · 5 Feb 2005, 06:54 (Ref:1217981)

If the '04 and older cars basically have no resale value, why don't they just lease them for dirt cheap to some V8Star teams? Surely, with little or no startup costs, surely some of those cars could make the grid??

flor · 5 Feb 2005, 13:09 (Ref:1218129)

thats what they are trying to do, for example they changed the rules to make one year old cars more competitive, but those private teams hardly find any sponsors at the moment

when irmscher entered a car some years ago they nearly went bankrupt because the cost were higher than expected

**FIRE** · 5 Feb 2005, 13:35 (Ref:1218142)

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Originally Posted by + its a Chevy

Rumour had it that Opel will pull the Vectra entry as it is such a dog. the VXR astra was being touted as a significant replacement in both this and BTCC cirlces but it has proven to be a 'bit of a *****' in setting up - more to follow soon i think....

You can't compare a DTM car with a BTCC/WTCC car.

kmchow · 6 Feb 2005, 08:44 (Ref:1218631)

Now that the drivers have been announced, has any sponsors been announced as well? I assume Audi will keep all their sponsors? MB will keep their Vodafone and AMG ones. Will Team Pearson once again run their famous Originale Teile/exposed engine design scheme? I think that's the coolest scheme.

**FIRE** · 7 Mar 2005, 13:43 (Ref:1245595)

Schüco will be main sponsor of Hakkinen's Mercedes

kmchow · 8 Mar 2005, 03:05 (Ref:1246304)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Schüco will be main sponsor of Hakkinen's Mercedes

It's the Schuco that produces 1/43 scale DTM models?? Cool.

flor · 8 Mar 2005, 03:08 (Ref:1246305)

no they dont produce models http://www.schueco.de

andy_b · 8 Mar 2005, 08:19 (Ref:1246396)

sponsors of Mclaren for a long number of years (including the end of the Mika era)

**FIRE** · 8 Mar 2005, 12:19 (Ref:1246567)

According Italiaracing Alexandros Margaritis will drive for Mucke Motorsport in DTM.

http://www.italiaracing.net/news.asp...&cart=news_dtm

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no they dont produce models http://www.schueco.de

I think they did in the past. Or was this a company with the same name?

andy_b · 8 Mar 2005, 12:45 (Ref:1246594)

different company

cybersdorf · 8 Mar 2005, 12:47 (Ref:1246599)

Schuco isn't Schueco.

**FIRE** · 8 Mar 2005, 16:59 (Ref:1246829)

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Schuco isn't Schueco.

Indeed www.schuco.de != www.schueco.de

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