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If it was then I think that Birley ran his Sierra GA?!, Roger Mac's XJS, Brian Chatfields 320i, Tony Davies' Firenza and people like Tim Swadkin and Dale/Stephen Minton in their Escort's entered. It'll be nice to confirm who, what and when!! |
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First Thundersaloon race was at Brands Hatch 17th March 1985. It was won by Vince Woodman/Jonathan Buncombe in a 3.4 litre Capri. Runner-up was Rod Birley/John Brindley in an Escort. 3rd Tony and John Davies in the Firenza.
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Heads Up Superloon fans - Looks like next month's Motorsport is having an article on this subject
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Glyn,
That Capri is one of the original GA 3.4 Group 2 cars. This is where I get a bit confused because I always though Supersaloons were one-offs built to the championship regs as in the case of Mick Hill's example. In the case of Vince's car this was built to FIA ETCC regs. (Nice pic BTW can I steal it?). |
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Peter.
Yes I always thought that this was a FIA car as well, I can certainly remember the commentators rabbiting on about Cologne etc. But the photo is from the July round of Thundersaloons at Brands Hatch. I don't remember a rule about the building of cars for Supersaloons, other than they should look like the real thing, no matter what was underneath the skin. Please steal the pic, I know it is going to a good home, unlike another of my photos which is appearing in Motor Sport this month and has been "lifted" from Frank de Jongs site. |
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Pic now on my file thank you.
I understand that Vince is restoring it for possible use in Classic Thunder. |
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IIRC Vince woodmans car was indeed an ex works car - a Cologne capri. It was never built or bought for supersaloons. He rarely campaigned it but was always competitive - he gave Baby Bertha a run for its money at Thruxton in '77
Wasn't he always sponsored by Esso Uniflo? thererfore a conflict of sponsors with the Shell logos on the photo Rambling on a bit does anyone remember Easter BTC in the seventies at Thruxton? A second Capri would be run for Jonathon Buncombe and he would be on the pace despite such rare appearences. Given a full season could he have given Rouse & Spice a run for the class title |
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A mate of mine has finished restoring a special Capri that was given to one of Fords Capri builders in recognition of their efforts, I will try to find out more details on Saturday as he is helping at Brands but I think although a road car it is a bit special.
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As you say, he was sponsored by Esso for a large proportion of his Group 1 Capri days (certainly the latter) i'm not sure who he was backed by in his earlier Escort days though. By the time the Shell logos appeared, in 1985, his Esso Capri touring car programme had long finished. In between the Grp 1 and Cologne Capri spells, he attempted to make a Grp A Mustang competitive (with regular driving partner Buncombe and CC Motorsport, who built his Gpr 1 cars) and I think they were hoping to do ETC and that the top class of the BTCC would be opened up to allow it in against the Rovers!! but MSA kept the 3600 capacity limit. Then spent a year driving the 635 BMW, again with CC alongside James Weaver - but a nasty shunt early in the year whilst trying to get on terms with Weaver's pace, knocked his confidence a bit and he stepped down from a full campaign at the end of the year, before doing Thundersaloons. I hope he gets the 3.4 car out again soon, it would be marvellous. |
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Here's the story so far - I've got quite a good list of "targets", some of whom are willing participants should it go ahead. There are quite a few people on the target list that are proving hard to get hold of. Should it happen, we'll have Ginger Marshall's Kitten there on show, and if things went in their favour - a remote chance of it running! Still trying to get in touch with Pete Stevens, though I haven't had much chance to do any chasing. I'm hoping to get down to some real "cold calling" in the next two weeks as work should ease off a little (dropping form 60hrs a week to about 35-40). |
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19 Feb 2006, 10:50 (Ref:1526145) | #139 | ||
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Come on Rob, publish the list and keep updating it to keep everybodys interest levels up.pete
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Yep, I second that! Let's see the 'goods'!
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Just been reading this whole thread (ah, the joys of a leisurely Sunday morning!) and it brough to mind a car I remember from my schoolboy days visiting Mallory Park in the late' 70's - Peter Jurgens' Auston A40!
I seem to recall he actually built two cars - the first was on a 'real' A40 shell, the later one was a spaceframe (the stripped chassis for which was advertised once in Motoring News - as it was called then...) Wonder whatever happened to one or the other car? |
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19 Feb 2006, 15:04 (Ref:1526268) | #142 | ||
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Peter Cartledge had a very rapid A40 as well. Were these A40's the same cars?
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19 Feb 2006, 15:10 (Ref:1526272) | #143 | |
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That name does ring a bell - now I'm wondering if I got the wrong name in my earlier post
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OK You want a list:
The following have been contacted, or have contacted me, and are keen as mustard! (or being press-ganged by their sponsor in the case of Mr Thurston) Driver Rob Compton Vauxhall Astra/Belmont Thundersaloon - V8 Ric Wood Vauxhall Calibra Thundersaloon - V8 Jon Mann Vauxhall Calibra Thundersaloon - V8 (if it's ready) Peter Thurston Ford Escort MK1 Supersaloon - V8 Andy Pipe Ford Escort MK2 Super/Thundersaloon - V6 Turbo Bill Richards Austin Metro Special Saloon - BDH R Carr Sunbeam Imp Special Saloon Bob Claxton Skoda Special Saloon Neil Claxton Suzuki SC100 Special Saloon Andy Wilson Austin Metro Special Saloon Nigel Hepburn Hillman Imp Special Saloon / Mini Special Saloon Anthony Wilson Mini Special Saloon Mike Bloomfield Ford Sierra Special Saloon - V8 Martin Brockhouse Skoda (Maguire) Special Saloon - BDA The following have been contacted and I'm waiting for confirmation of any chance that their car may be ready. Ginger's car will be there on show at least...: Martin Walker VW Beetle Special Saloon - V8 Ginger Marshall Reliant Kitten Special Saloon The following have been contacted, and I'm waiting for an answer: Nick Crocker Chevrolet Camaro Thundersaloon V8 Tony Hazlewood DAF 55 Marathon Special Saloon V8 (contacted via restorer) The following have not been contacted yet because I'm still trying to get hold of them/find contact details. Joe Ward Baby Bertha Vauxhall Firenza Superloon V8 Pete Stevens GM Carlton Thundersaloon V8 Vince Woodman Ford Capri Mk1 Cologne Capri - GAA V6 Steve Dillon Ford Escort Mk1 TwinCam Superloon Tony Davies Vauxhall Firenza Super/Thundersaloon (Transpeed) Les Lyons Ford Escort Mk2 RS1800 Duncan Aukland Rover SD1 Special Saloon - V8 James Aukland Ford Capri Mk3 Special Saloon - V8 If anyone has contact details for the above, please let me know. Rob. |
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20 Feb 2006, 21:36 (Ref:1527408) | #145 | ||
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The keen eyed of you will notice Bill Shepherds Calibra on there. All two of them.
One (Ric Wood's) is the one that Bill built. The Jon Mann car is the original Pilbeam built car. |
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20 Feb 2006, 21:37 (Ref:1527409) | #146 | ||
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Rob,just seen the posting ,I suppose it's probably the only time your be in front of the rest of us!!!
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If you ever look at grid sheets, the slowest is always at the top......
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20 Feb 2006, 21:42 (Ref:1527415) | #148 | ||
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Hold up ! that makes me fourth slowest then
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God help you Pete if Rob leads, youll need max grip with what that Belmont chucks out..
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Rob ,
What ever happened to the Vauxhall Senator ? I think I heard the Star 'n' Stripes Opel Manta and Terry Nicholl's Capri GAA were being rebuilt ? Any News ? How about Nigel Garrett's Rover Vitesse V8 (that used to be a Thundersaloon)and what happened to all the Toyota Starlet's that used to race ? I know Nathan Mills is selling one. Shame about Peter Baldwin's Mini ending up in Japan. Anyway Paul Soames used to race a Maguire Mini. |
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