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I have raced at VIR in a 24hr race (1991 Miata) which used the full track at night and north course during the day (karts had south during day). The infield section (half of the North Course) which everyone is refering to is very technical and is basicily a single file section if in similar speed cars. The LMP1's can probley pull off the passes but everyone else can forget about it. I would expect lap times to be around a 2:30 on this configuration for the LMP1's. If anyone wants a preview of Grand Course in person before the ALMS race come up on August 11-12, 2012 as there will be a 24 hr race on Grand Course that weekend with close to if not over 100 cars.
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There's hardly competition between ALMS and WEC now [that the Petit situation is kinda fixed], and very probably no entry clashes either. Also the ESPN2 highlights of Virginia air a day later, the viewer numbers for streaming aren't that high
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18 Jan 2012, 09:21 (Ref:3013278) | #1479 | |
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The 33 people who want to watch either online live can just get a multi-monitor setup if they wish! It'll be tough for Hindy, the other media, and whatever drivers who are scheduled to do both.
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18 Jan 2012, 12:25 (Ref:3013378) | #1480 | |
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Will there be full races on tv/online this year? I assume sebring, laguna seca and plm, but what other rounds?
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18 Jan 2012, 15:52 (Ref:3013505) | #1482 | ||
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Why don't ALMS fans just pony up and buy an xbox to watch the races on tv. They are so much better than speed has ever been and it would cost you like $200 which is what you spend on a race weekend.
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18 Jan 2012, 17:11 (Ref:3013579) | #1483 | |
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Because people like to complain and make things as impossibly complicated as possible so they can complain some more.
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If that is your expectation, it isn't a great way to grow the ALMS is it?
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There could be something positive about the Pug withdrawal. Now that Audi has already secured the WEC title for this year, I wonder if they'll do PLM - I mean why not? The weekend is free for them, it's a good market place and more importantly a very prestigious event, and they don't have to worry abut championships.
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Also, Peugeot dropping out doesn't change anything for Audi... they could have chosen to run PLM anyway. The question is though, would the addition of Audi alone make for a better event? IMO, it would make it worse.
Who cares about testing? hmmmm... I seem to recall Audi and Peugeot being there from something like Thursday or Friday the week before the race testing... it would seem as though they cared. |
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Audi doesn't need to care about their pace because Peugeot won't be there. They could just show up before qualifying and still be on pole
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Yes but there was a slim chance that they could still be in hunt for the WEC champ (as there is still Zhuhai after Petit), but now that their main rival is axed they can do whatever they wish.
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Yep, I think a lot of testing & development plans have changed at Audi this afternoon.... the pressure definitely is off, unlike Toytoa makes a debut with guns blazing... but that's unlikely.
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I have felt for a long time that the HPD P1 could be a dark horse this year and may be more competitive than people think - Lets hope i am right.
Also I wouldn't under estimate Toyota I would not be surprised if the car is both competitive and reliable from the off. They appear to have learned their lessons of the past and are following a more sensible path - such as employing an established expert like Oreca to operate the cars at the race track. It is a shame for Pug though because they built a fantastic car - one which Audi have struggled to match for pace since it first hit the racetracks. Lets hope there is a privateer programme about to be announced. |
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I wonder if the Peugeot news could convince Muscle Milk to throw in a last-minute Le Mans entry if they haven't done so already.
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doesn't Muscle Milk have an auto bid already?
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If by that, you mean that I don't look at a turd, and find a way to mentally polish it and call it gold, thank you.
I'm sorry, I don't find the prospects that there is an infinitely small probability that Audi might choose to run PLM, and make it a demonstration parade all that exciting. I can admit, that having Audi there, might garner the race a few more mentions on page 17 of the sports section of a few newspapers. Should Audi and Toyota come... great. Should all the petrol, non-Hybrid cars instead, great too... even without Audi and Toyota. Toyota have managed to make a mockery of their last two big programs I've followed. F1 and the GT ONE both had gobs of money thrown at them with no success. I like Oreca, and respect the success they had with the Vipers. Having said that, they didn't do much with Chrysler LMP program, and only lucked into a win with Mazda. Otherwise, there isn't much distinguishable there. Hopefully it is different this time. I don't see much hope for the HPD either. Petrol, non-hybrid, privateer run teams... It will take a miracle... |
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Going back to Audi at PLM: I know that A.) they would have to skip a race in a championship they are a part of and that B.) they will likely be leading said championship. In theory, would Audi want the PLM crown back after 3 losses? Or would not having Peugeot there to compete against devalue PLM as a whole?
Grabbing at straws here, but not able to attend Sebring so I'm thinking outside the box here. |
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