Winter Projects - Page 62

simon drabble · 18 Feb 2013, 13:14 (Ref:3206687)

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Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Good luck with it MG my Monza looked as straight as a die on the bodywork but I just couldnt get it right, I am sure you will be luckier as there is so much documented about setting up the Cortina.

Al - Morninggents is a canny yorkshireman with a lot of Lotus Cortina experience!! I am sure he is sandbagging!

GORDON STREETER · 18 Feb 2013, 13:46 (Ref:3206704)

Most classic cars were only made to a given tolerance just like modern stuff, it's just that later car bodies are better controlled in that department.
I would think that a lot of people would be surprised if they measured the wheelbase "accurately" on their daily runabout !
Most Anglias I have had for competition use I have had to move various mounting points to make it drive the same on left and right corners and have always had to use different sized lowering blocks on the rear axle to fine tune the spring rates.
Of course some cars have to run compliance bushes depending on what series they run in whereas with adjustable rose joints you can get over some problems easier.

morninggents · 18 Feb 2013, 14:33 (Ref:3206731)

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Originally Posted by simon drabble

Al - Morninggents is a canny yorkshireman with a lot of Lotus Cortina experience!! I am sure he is sandbagging!

Not wholly true, Simon. This is the first App K car I've built so still learning. As I said earlier there are no 'trick bits' so everything should line up if the shell is straight.

As Gordon has just said, using rose joints is easy to get a car set up but rj's aren't legal for App K are they?

zefarelly · 18 Feb 2013, 15:23 (Ref:3206761)

No Peter. but If there's a desire to use them . . . .

Cortina shells are pretty consistent, if straight . . . Andy Mesham of the CTCRC has measured lots . . . his comment on mine was it was the only one with strut topa dimensions outside any he had seen . . . every other was inside . . . . but withing tolerance, for some of the std dims he had +/- 3mm was typical.

grantp · 18 Feb 2013, 16:14 (Ref:3206770)

Another thought on tolerances.

Way back in the mid 70s I was driving around at work in a well used Escort van. It got to be a bit encient so a new one was purchased. When I picked it up from the dealer it was fitted with 3 Pirellis and a Goodyear. The dealer was persuaded to swap the Goodyear for a 4th Pirelli ..

The thing was OK, for a new van with a tight engine, but noa and again (well, quite a lot after a thousand miles or so) under braking it would pull strongly to the left. Or the right. It was never possible to guess which way it might go. But you could be reasonably certain that straight was not a regular option.

The dealer started to investigate it according to the Ford step by step process. I thiink we got to the second set of disks and pads and some bushes and were about to change the calipers. Nothing seemed to make any difference and half way through at about step 30 of 60 we got to 15k miles an no resolution in sight. However I had hammered the rear tyres by running high pressures for full load at all times, even when empty. (It helped "agility" on roundabouts) and they were worn flat and in need of replacement. Front not far off either and one had had a puncture repair iirc so, being Goodyear sponsored, we had a set of Goodyears fitted.

The brake problem immediately disappeared. Never returned in the rest of the time I was using it - about another 40k miles I think. Handling was better too although roundabouts in the dry became relatively humdrum.

Al Weyman · 18 Feb 2013, 21:30 (Ref:3206889)

I used to work at a Ford agency and did PDI's on Mk 2 Cortinas and they had steering issues from new as I recollect.

terence · 19 Feb 2013, 07:28 (Ref:3207050)

Getting rid of loads of "stuff" before our move and just come across six mk2 manuals.Anyone want them?

zefarelly · 19 Feb 2013, 07:33 (Ref:3207052)

All Cortinas had steering issues, most still do.

GORDON STREETER · 19 Feb 2013, 07:56 (Ref:3207062)

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Originally Posted by zefarelly

All Cortinas had steering issues, most still do.

It's normally the nut on the steering wheel that's the problem

Mike Bell · 21 Feb 2013, 18:27 (Ref:3208689)

Not exactly a winter project, but it was 0 degrees today and have been getting all the odd bits ready for return of Canary's engine and gearbox.

The ZF box is QR so still have bellhousing and clutch op mech. Clutch fork rocks on a bobbin that is similar if not same as original 2000E, but mine has sheared off where threaded into housing! Fortunately the fork can't really go anywhere and is clipped to bobbin so has still been working. Wonder for how much longer, though?

On investigation, it looks as if the tapped hole the broken bit was in is out of line with the slave cylinder and release bearing carrier, and also now a bit worse for wear after removing the broken threaded stub, which was loctited in!

What would like to do is fit a helicoil (other inserts are available

) but try and drill for it 'off centre' to correct the mis-alignment. Alternative would be to drill and tap the bobbin and put a bolt through from behind. Mmmmm, one for a machine shop, methinks......

Robyn Slater · 21 Feb 2013, 21:03 (Ref:3208774)

Mike, if you fancy a trip to "sunny" Sudbury i'll sort it for you

Mike Bell · 22 Feb 2013, 07:02 (Ref:3208949)

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Originally Posted by Robyn Slater

Mike, if you fancy a trip to "sunny" Sudbury i'll sort it for you

Thanks for the offer, Robyn. I'll see how it goes- probably after back from 'sunny' Sebring (it had better be...).

zefarelly · 22 Feb 2013, 11:47 (Ref:3209049)

Timeserts are great

Winter project update . . . The Tornado has been on a table, the good news is the chassis is straight and true . . . ther front suspension needed minor adjustment and works very well . . . . the rear is a little wayward, firsdt things first the chassis needs some repairwork and the trailing arms also, in theory its not a bad little car apparently . . . .

oh, and the new FiA engine in the Cortina started first time, sounding pretty lively, off to the rollers tomorrow hopefully.

Clive Brown · 22 Feb 2013, 17:18 (Ref:3209164)

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Originally Posted by zefarelly

oh, and the new FiA engine in the Cortina started first time.

Would that be the BDG, then?

GORDON STREETER · 22 Feb 2013, 18:27 (Ref:3209190)

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Originally Posted by Clive Brown

Would that be the BDG, then?

I hope so, got to beat those twincams !

simon drabble · 22 Feb 2013, 18:49 (Ref:3209200)

If anyone has a set of 2" HD8 SU's for sale please let me know - needed for winter project!

SAMD · 22 Feb 2013, 19:25 (Ref:3209213)

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Originally Posted by Clive Brown

Would that be the BDG, then?

Of course! the 'pre crossflow' experimental BD

**Tim Falce** · 22 Feb 2013, 20:11 (Ref:3209243)

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Originally Posted by simon drabble

If anyone has a set of 2" HD8 SU's for sale please let me know - needed for winter project!

How many is a set for you?

simon drabble · 22 Feb 2013, 22:02 (Ref:3209324)

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Originally Posted by Tim Falce

How many is a set for you?

2, if you know Chris at Winspeed he can tell you exactly what we need. Thanks

**Tim Falce** · 23 Feb 2013, 08:21 (Ref:3209446)

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Originally Posted by simon drabble

2, if you know Chris at Winspeed he can tell you exactly what we need. Thanks

Never heard of Chris or Winspeed but I'll PM you my email address when I get back tomorrow so he can contact me. I have a few laying around although they will need refurbing.

simon drabble · 23 Feb 2013, 09:04 (Ref:3209454)

Many thanks

zefarelly · 24 Feb 2013, 09:00 (Ref:3209889)

Funny you mention that

I have a set of blue prints and a few original drawings here for a 16v Ford top end on a 120E 1500 block . . . dated 1963. . . . on Willment drawing sheets . . . . with an ammendment and letter from Harry Munday, to Jeff Uren . . . . it must predate the Cosworth BD . . . .

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Originally Posted by SAMD

Of course! the 'pre crossflow' experimental BD

Al Weyman · 25 Feb 2013, 08:31 (Ref:3210325)

on the Imp stand at race Retro they had the twin cam Lynton Imp engine that was being developed in one of the workshops at the Fortis Green workshops when i worked there in the 60's. I remember the designer produced two cylinder version and had installed it in a custom built and somewhat strange motorcycle. I tried to talk to them about it but the stand seemed to be dominated by some loud voiced bagpipe playing kilt wearing Scotsman so I gave up in the end.

simon drabble · 1 Mar 2013, 13:13 (Ref:3212710)

thanks to those that PM'd me we have now a set of HD8's so hopefully everything still on schedule for May completion!

jan bot · 26 Apr 2013, 19:57 (Ref:3239767)

Hi guys,
Had to drop this here. Video of the winter project that we posted on page 73 (2011!)
Took a bit longer and will still take a lot longer to make it a perfect project.. but we got our first race under our belt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqZaV4ya9Fc

If you want to know more, our report might be usefull..
http://www.botspeed.eu/en/news/

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