LM24 Race 2018 Le Mans 24 Hours Race Thread - Page 62

TF110 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:35 (Ref:3830955)

Buemi again in the 3:18's.

andrewn7 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:42 (Ref:3830956)

just waking up to find the #8 is back in the lead, despite going a lap down last night.

How did that happen, or shouldn't I ask?

airbusA346 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:43 (Ref:3830957)

#70 - 105 second stop/go - speeding in pit lane

Irie · 17 Jun 2018, 06:44 (Ref:3830958)

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Originally Posted by andrewn7

just waking up to find the #8 is back in the lead, despite going a lap down last night.

How did that happen, or shouldn't I ask?

#8 wasn't a lap down just 2 something behind.

andrewn7 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:48 (Ref:3830959)

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Originally Posted by Irie

#8 wasn't a lap down just 2 something behind.

Right, probably just a quirk of the timing last night, after it had it's 60 sec stop/go.

Thanks

andrewn7 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:49 (Ref:3830960)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

#70 - 105 second stop/go - speeding in pit lane

sounds like almost exactly the gap between the two cars - how convenient

ederss7 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:49 (Ref:3830961)

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Originally Posted by andrewn7

just waking up to find the #8 is back in the lead, despite going a lap down last night.

How did that happen, or shouldn't I ask?

Good stints for Alonso and Nakajima, plus a "slow zone luck".

JoeW04 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:50 (Ref:3830962)

I think we've been spoilt in recent years & we where probably due a race like this. hopefully Toyota get their win finally this year and then the ACO can get rid of these ridiculous privateer handicaps for next year

AndreasDavour · 17 Jun 2018, 06:50 (Ref:3830963)

I actually cheated and fall asleep, and just found out Dragonspeed is a goner and not much else happening.

Have Toyota not managed to fail yet? Amazing.

JoeW04 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:50 (Ref:3830964)

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Originally Posted by ederss7

Good stints for Alonso and Nakajima, plus a "slow zone luck".

And a not very quick Lopez

andrewn7 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:52 (Ref:3830965)

Disappointed to see the #10 in the wall at Porsche curves, plucky team, real shame for them.

At this rate #11 will be 5th in class, definitely a case of what might have been, if it wasnt for those annoying sensor issues!

andrewn7 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:54 (Ref:3830966)

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Originally Posted by JoeW04

And a not very quick Lopez

fair enough, all credit to the #8 if they genuinely turned it round on pace.

TF110 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:57 (Ref:3830967)

Maybe it was tire choice too. I think the #7 car is just as fast but they've been slower while ahead. I don't know why. I do know that Lopez did a quintuple stint and then did a quadruple stint. He was probably fatigued a bit.

Acid09 · 17 Jun 2018, 06:58 (Ref:3830968)

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Originally Posted by andrewn7

fair enough, all credit to the #8 if they genuinely turned it round on pace.

That's the one thing that leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth this year, I just don't buy this. It's so obvious that Toyota wants the #8 to win, I don't buy their "they're allowed to race until the last pit stop" talking point.

That's probably the reason they don't have one of the cars going after the distance record. They can't do it with the #8 since it's too much risk and if the #7 does it and ends up winning, it's not what they want either.

Happy they're (likely) getting their long-overdue win but that whole Alonso nonsense just makes it way too political for my taste.

Gingers4Justice · 17 Jun 2018, 06:58 (Ref:3830969)

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Originally Posted by andrewn7

Disappointed to see the #10 in the wall at Porsche curves, plucky team, real shame for them.

At this rate #11 will be 5th in class, definitely a case of what might have been, if it wasnt for those annoying sensor issues!

This race came way too early for the privateers. Everyone was talking about challenging Toyota if they ran into trouble, but some of these privateer entries haven’t even done a full endurance test yet. This is it!

All important lessons to learn for the rest of the season.

TF110 · 17 Jun 2018, 07:00 (Ref:3830970)

Aleshin with a PB 3:20.9. Still moving even though he's back there in 49th.

ederss7 · 17 Jun 2018, 07:01 (Ref:3830971)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Maybe it was tire choice too. I think the #7 car is just as fast but they've been slower while ahead. I don't know why. I do know that Lopez did a quintuple stint and then did a quadruple stint. He was probably fatigued a bit.

The #7 seemed to be slower during the night. Lopez and Conway's first stints were good, at night they weren't.

Irie · 17 Jun 2018, 07:03 (Ref:3830972)

As Lopez got into the car with fresh tires he could post some good laptimes but it faded very quickly if I remember correctly

TF110 · 17 Jun 2018, 07:03 (Ref:3830973)

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Originally Posted by Acid09

That's the one thing that leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth this year, I just don't buy this. It's so obvious that Toyota wants the #8 to win, I don't buy their "they're allowed to race until the last pit stop" talking point.

That's probably the reason they don't have one of the cars going after the distance record. They can't do it with the #8 since it's too much risk and if the #7 does it and ends up winning, it's not what they want either.

Happy they're (likely) getting their long-overdue win but that whole Alonso nonsense just makes it way too political for my taste.

They can still do the distance record. Right now they're on pace to do 395 even with all the slow zones.

JoeW04 · 17 Jun 2018, 07:06 (Ref:3830974)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acid09

That's the one thing that leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth this year, I just don't buy this. It's so obvious that Toyota wants the #8 to win, I don't buy their "they're allowed to race until the last pit stop" talking point.

That's probably the reason they don't have one of the cars going after the distance record. They can't do it with the #8 since it's too much risk and if the #7 does it and ends up winning, it's not what they want either.

Happy they're (likely) getting their long-overdue win but that whole Alonso nonsense just makes it way too political for my taste.

Also leaves a bitter taste that Hulkenberg & potentially Alonso will have won this race at their first attempt where the likes of Ant Davidson, Stephan Sarrizan & many others have tried for years to win this race to no avail

tomerswayler · 17 Jun 2018, 07:07 (Ref:3830975)

295 laps done. If the Toyota can do 3:24 laps on average to the end, 401 laps are possible at best.

Gingers4Justice · 17 Jun 2018, 07:08 (Ref:3830976)

I think there’s a lot of pessimism at play here.

No idea how you’d persuade the likes of Lopez and Kobayashi to not win Le Mans on purpose.

**Adam43** · 17 Jun 2018, 07:09 (Ref:3830977)

How do we know what Toyota’s approach to the distance record is? The only thing I’ve heard is Radio Le Mans saying they wanted Alonso to get pole, fastest lap and the distance record in the preview. So basically I’ve not heard anything credible at all!

I would be interested to hear what had Toyota said.

Acid09 · 17 Jun 2018, 07:10 (Ref:3830978)

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Originally Posted by TF110

They can still do the distance record. Right now they're on pace to do 395 even with all the slow zones.

They could have given themselves much more breathing room for an extended safety car period with a higher pace though, it's obviously in the car, you can tell that they have slowed it down another notch after the second SMP car hit trouble.

It's a bid sad, because getting the distance record would make this a "legit win" even for people who are rolling their eyes about Toyota racing themselves but they have limited their strategic options with favoring one of their cars so obviously.

Rob Leupen was in the ES booth just now and even he admitted that the #7 crew is having to deal with the short end of the stick this week as within the team everything's focusing on the #8 a little bit.

Acid09 · 17 Jun 2018, 07:12 (Ref:3830980)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

How do we know what Toyota’s approach to the distance record is? The only thing I’ve heard is Radio Le Mans saying they wanted Alonso to get pole, fastest lap and the distance record in the preview. So basically I’ve not heard anything credible at all!

Shouldn't getting the distance record being the logical goal if you're racing a car that has set the Le Mans lap record last year and is barely any slower this year?

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