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It makes no difference to the organisers. The fans are losing out because if they haven't got access to Sky, they can't see the races live on TV. The TV viewers - see the answer above. The teams are losing out sponsorship-wise as less people are seeing the mobile advertising hoardings whizzing around the track - also see the answer above. The sport as a whole is also losing out as there is less chance of a casual TV viewer being converted into an enthusiast - see answers above. |
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Televised sport needs sustainable viewing figures, not a declining TV audience, in order to attract advertising revenue and sponsors. If TV audiences are allowed to decline further, then the organisers and teams will be effected. |
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I guess it could be likened to the Premier league in the UK. That has such a massive fan base moving to pay tv was always going to be a winner. Formula one has a massive worldwide fan base but not, as a percentage of sports fans, big in the UK.
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i assume that is the household fee for the year?
obviously a difference in currencies, but a cable subscription here with the sports tiers is about CAN$100/m which i think works out to about £700 a year. i dont know if that comparable or not to what you guys would have to pay for a similar bundle of channels? |
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To the best of my knowledge, F1 broadcasting is a loss leader to SKY, and worse for them is that the UK audience via SKY is falling month on month. The winners, by far, were the Ecclestone family and the teams who all shared the proceeds from the sale of the contract to SKY. That money may still be trickling down to them all. |
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Yeah per household and yes that is approx £700 per year. Frankly not worth it.
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A summary of the 2019 costs to watch F1 in the UK can be found here.
In short, every method requires a TV Licence at a cost of £154.50, which was the case when F1 was broadcast as FTA. On top of this, the cheapest way to watch every F1 race in the UK was a further £76.93 for the season if using a mobile device, £179.80 on a TV, or £404 if you don't have an internet connection. |
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It needs to be borne in mind that whilst F1 was FTA, especially during the halcyon BBC days, that the UK's audience was by far the largest in the world. I do not think that that is the case any more. |
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well not much enjoys the same audience size it used to...free or PayTV there is so much more content and competition for eyeballs today then there was back in the day.
if people had as much choice as they do today back then, then F1's historical audience would have been smaller. |
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I temporarily have access to Sky and have been watching some of the F1 pre season testing which is a first for me and I can't believe the desperate bilge that the so called commentary team pump out. For the most part it is a complete insult to anyone with an interest in motorsport listening to the drivel being broadcast.
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Testing is harder to commentate on than untimed practice
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The point being, why show it at all then, why not simply do an hour long wrap up show every night, live is utterly pointless, and for such a tiny minority of people.
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If you have a channel solely dedicated to F1, what else would you broadcast while the testing is in progress?
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Why not show it live? I’m not bothered, but a few others are and they are there. I suspect that the additional costs aren’t that much. I could imagine having it on in the background.
Although it doesn’t surprise me that the commentary could be better. There is a real opportunity for engaging discussion. Now that is a niche idea! |
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I often feel like those who cannot stand Croft never watched the James Allen or Legard years. Croft may not be amazing, but he's competent.
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I watched all 6 days (the joys of retirement )
The first week the Commentators were good, the second week was a lot of drivel, but I thought Jolyn Palmer was very good as was Nicholas Latifi & Lando. |
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Voila they now produce the coverage, and low and behold ... it’s dull, with commentators having to fill for hours on end. Oh and Sky did an hour long review at the end of each day. |
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Frankly they've got the monopoly and have dumbed the whole thing down in tune with Liberty.
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If most people complain that a 2hr race is boring most weekends, what do they expect from testing?
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