Delta Wing Discussion ONLY - Page 69

HJJ · 24 Aug 2012, 02:04 (Ref:3123885)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

On a faster, note ... I don't have much hope for the DWing. Just needing specialized wheels and tires makes it hard to find a home, and since its big advantage is efficiency it pretty much needs an endurance format to succeed. No great savings in a sprint format, and doesn't fit any current endurance class, plus Michelin has to make one-off tires ...

Firestone already committed to supplying the Indy Lights version with tires till '14 if it gets accepted. The D'Wing concept would work in any formula.

Also, going back to your post about the AMR-1 chassis being used, the biggest thing was that it was already accepted by the FIA as passing the crash test and being the closest to the original concept. That alone saved the team a ton of cash on development.

I bet it shows up at Petit. And if the Indy Lights concept isn't chosen, there is a very good chance you will see it in the near (2-3 year) future.

Maelochs · 24 Aug 2012, 04:17 (Ref:3123903)

I assume it will show up at Petit--I am assuming it will be put in storage there or near there after the race.

Indy Lights guarantees it two years---If it gets chosen. I'd think the Dyson package, which includes an engine, might be an easier deal to sell, but if DWing LLC can line up a motor supplier, Lights would be a great way to get exposure---and to get exposure for Lights.

As someone else pointed out though, not much good to have a car in a training series which is radically different that the main series.

Where would you expect to see it in two-three years? That part mystifies me. Do you mean ACO will make room for it in its 2015 regs, or that ALMS will create a spec class in 2014, or what? Where do you expect to see it in a few years?

TF110 · 24 Aug 2012, 08:07 (Ref:3123945)

Haha, when all else fails, blame Obama. He doesn't even make the laws.

I don't think the DW will be raced anytime soon again. Where is it's place? That has yet to be found.

Maelochs · 24 Aug 2012, 13:02 (Ref:3124073)

Obama Killed the DeltaWing! He's a Witch!!! Burn Him!!!!!!!!

FordCosworthPanoz · 24 Aug 2012, 13:18 (Ref:3124086)

If the Delta Wing ever raced in North America it would probably be censored by the FCC.

FordCosworthPanoz · 24 Aug 2012, 13:23 (Ref:3124090)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Cool idea but NASA doesn't quite have the funding it once had, since Obama was elected.

Sorry, that money was needed to pay off a day's worth of interest on the National Debt. If it didn't go towards that it probably went to some obese single woman with 16 kids in a one bedroom apartment.

Maelochs · 24 Aug 2012, 13:27 (Ref:3124093)

The Iraq War debt ate the DeltaWing!! Burn it!!!

You just know if the DWing ever got its own series, one team would get Trojan sponsorship and paint it pink with a darker pink nose. This is America, after all.

FordCosworthPanoz · 24 Aug 2012, 13:30 (Ref:3124095)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maelochs

The Iraq War debt ate the DeltaWing!! Burn it!!!

You just know if the DWing ever got its own series, one team would get Trojan sponsorship and paint it pink with a darker pink nose. This is America, after all.

Shhhhhhh, shut up about the Iraq war already. Nobody needs to know how great the non-Libertarian Republican Deficit Hawks are at actually cutting the national debt, just let their talking and promises do the trick.

TF110 · 24 Aug 2012, 17:09 (Ref:3124182)

Yeah, I'm really liking the Romney Ryan plan of cuts to everything but Military and such. Then not raising any taxes at all (which is what we have now that they make a point about being so bad). This has nothing to do with the Deltawing at all, of course.

**Adam43** · 24 Aug 2012, 18:42 (Ref:3124226)

What does this button do?

**Aysedasi** · 25 Aug 2012, 08:52 (Ref:3124440)

It brings the discussion back on topic - with a little luck.....

gwyllion · 11 Sep 2012, 12:30 (Ref:3134198)

Gordon Kirby has some news regarding the Delta Wing:

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"Part of the transaction and the contract with Jim and his people is that the Delta Wing will be a part of the prototype class in 2014 and will be part of the ALMS in 2013," Panoz said. "That is part of the agreement.

"We're working through the logistics of building cars. We are designing installations for different engines and we're trying to conclude one or two engine deals so customers have options. We've been working on a new tub for the production car and we're moving along on all fronts. We'd love to have a car that could test and participate next year."

Panoz wouldn't confirm that the Delta Wing will race in next month's Petit Le Mans at Road Atlanta but he said testing and planning for that eventuality have been going ahead.

"The car tested in the UK last week and will be here in Georgia on the 18th or 19th of September," Panoz admitted. "We are making a few components to adapt the car from what was needed at Le Mans to the set-up we need at Road Atlanta. We need to get those pieces on the car and do some testing."

An announcement is expected by the end of this week that the Delta Wing will compete in the Petit Le Mans and designer Ben Bowlby is excited about racing his baby once again and preparing the Delta Wing for a full season of racing next year. Nor could he be more pleased with the ALMS/Grand-Am merger.

source: http://gordonkirby.com/categories/co..._is_no352.html

gwyllion · 11 Sep 2012, 12:31 (Ref:3134200)

A bit more on the Delta Wing future: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/20...petit-le-mans/

**joeb** · 13 Sep 2012, 10:42 (Ref:3135318)

I can't remember who asked, but somewhere on this forum a question about the DW's intellectual property was asked, and who owns it. Well it turns out it may be Chip Ganassi. Well at least Chip claims to own patents for it in this interview:

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...ampaign=social

vincegail · 25 Sep 2012, 12:49 (Ref:3141406)

Other DW-topic appears to be closed, so please keep this one sane and stay away from 'supposed-to-be-funny-Off-Topic' remarks please!

Deltawing seems to be getting on really well at Road Atlanta, but that's PR-babble for you.
Although I hope not to see DW's replacing 'normal' LMP cars, I think it is a rather interesting concept and I hope they do well!

http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...cus-13504.html

gwyllion · 25 Sep 2012, 13:03 (Ref:3141409)

I reopened the original Delta Wing thread. If the discussion goes offtopic, it will be closed again...

deggis · 25 Sep 2012, 13:29 (Ref:3141418)

Onboard from Road Atlanta test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwpBYK41Tbw

1.19-ish lap.

vincegail · 25 Sep 2012, 13:40 (Ref:3141422)

Too bad that the point of view keeps changing all the time, but that was a nice Videoclip! Keeps surprising me how little oversteer this thing has.

**joeb** · 25 Sep 2012, 14:06 (Ref:3141441)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Onboard from Road Atlanta test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwpBYK41Tbw

1.19-ish lap.

Cool video. The time isn't great, but I'm sure they weren't going all out. Actually, I wonder if they will go all out during the race or try and stay out of trouble so the DW can finish?

vincegail · 25 Sep 2012, 14:39 (Ref:3141465)

To finish first, first you have to finish. Not that they are going to aim for a first place, but I think their goal is to reach the finish. Reaching that will be an achievement in it's own right and will no doubt gather valuable information. No point of rushing and as a result breaking it when you are only racing yourself!

(Not implying they will be crawling around, mind!)

**bjohnsonsmith** · 25 Sep 2012, 15:34 (Ref:3141507)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

A bit more on the Delta Wing future: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/20...petit-le-mans/

There's a piece on the ALMS website about the D-Wing at Sebring.

http://www.alms.com/articles/things-...-powered-mazda

DeathOrGlory · 25 Sep 2012, 15:37 (Ref:3141510)

I don't think the car's optimized nor developed at all these past several months. Gunnar Jeannette we know is quick, and so is Lucas Ordoñez, but the lack of testing hurts it.

GT6 · 25 Sep 2012, 16:28 (Ref:3141530)

well I am glad to see it running again and hope to see it racing in 2013, the way thinks are looking it should have plenty of chances of making the grid at most races and with some decent development it could do well against the lmp2 and perhaps even the lower end lmp1's

deggis · 26 Sep 2012, 01:23 (Ref:3141773)

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Originally Posted by DeathOrGlory

I don't think the car's optimized nor developed at all these past several months. Gunnar Jeannette we know is quick, and so is Lucas Ordoñez, but the lack of testing hurts it.

This video has some footage from some track I can't recognize: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jGoWnoEkkI

HJJ · 26 Sep 2012, 02:10 (Ref:3141780)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Cool video. The time isn't great, but I'm sure they weren't going all out. Actually, I wonder if they will go all out during the race or try and stay out of trouble so the DW can finish?

Car is running Le Mans areo and Michelins. Y'all don't think they are going to post a good time on a youtube video do you?

More tests in the next couple of weeks at Road ATL.

Thanks for opening the thread back, mods.

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