Audi R10 - Page 7

JAG · 1 Dec 2005, 19:00 (Ref:1474955)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss_collins

I was amazed by what we have been told about the RS Spyder

Care to share?

jhansen · 1 Dec 2005, 19:10 (Ref:1474971)

Interesting take on the RS Spyder here:

http://www.sportscarpros.com/baby-yo...re/default.htm

"But, hold on a minute. What about winning overall, particularly since, even in its
current LMP2 form, the RS Spyder has shown tremendous potential to rub with
“the Big Boys.” It is that this point that things begin to get interesting, and
speculation comes into play. One part of the puzzle can be found in the seeming
ease with which the LMP2 chassis can be transformed by the addition of large
wheels and tires and minor aerodynamic changes into and LMP1 car, as is the
case with the latest Lola spyders."

"Let's assume that the 2007 playing field will have a definite tilt towards the diesel
camp and its Peugeot entries. If Porsche does harbor aspirations of winning the
24 Hours outright with the RS Spyder, then the window of opportunity would
appear to be limited to this coming June. Beyond that, circumstances could make
such a try much more difficult, and much more expensive."

Valker · 4 Dec 2005, 21:57 (Ref:1476970)

From Audi newsletter:

Audi R10 world premiere in Paris

Le Mans: The countdown has started: On Tuesday, 13 December, Audi unveils
the eagerly awaited successor of the ultra-successful Audi R8 in Paris. The
new R10 is one of the most ambitious projects which Audi Sport has ever
undertaken.

JAG · 5 Dec 2005, 13:10 (Ref:1477366)

Just noticed there is an Audi channel on Sky Digital (around 250)

They have various Le Mans, Goodwood Festival of Speed etc. programs, so I wonder if they will cover the R10 launch?

ss_collins · 5 Dec 2005, 15:41 (Ref:1477452)

Afraid I can't yet but theres a lot more to the Spyder than we have seen yet.

Hopefully I can persuade Mike of Mulsanne to put a little bit up in the new year and I might put some on our site.

gwyllion · 5 Dec 2005, 15:44 (Ref:1477454)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ss_collins

Afraid I can't yet but theres a lot more to the Spyder than we have seen yet.

Hopefully I can persuade Mike of Mulsanne to put a little bit up in the new year and I might put some on our site.

A factory Porsche LMP1 coming?

Or Audi R10 = Porsche RS Spyder + Audi diesel engine

rdjones · 5 Dec 2005, 15:46 (Ref:1477455)

As I have said before, lets wait for the 13th to come round and lot of questions will be answered, hopefully..........

gwyllion · 6 Dec 2005, 13:02 (Ref:1478205)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mgrs

A friend of mine who works for Audi has been invited to attend a launch in germany on december the 6th - with strickt instructions for to bring any camera's of any description!

Any news on this? Engine configuration, open/closed, driver line up, team?

panoz.lmp1 · 6 Dec 2005, 13:33 (Ref:1478236)

The new car would be defintly an open car with a surprising engine ...

Audi R8R · 6 Dec 2005, 13:38 (Ref:1478239)

Quote:

Originally Posted by panoz.lmp1

The new car would be defintly an open car with a surprising engine ...

You see, this is where I think everyone is expecting one thing and Audi is going to surprise us with something else...

I have a funny feeling that it's NOT going to be a diesel... I reckon they've got something else up their sleeve.

tblincoe · 6 Dec 2005, 13:47 (Ref:1478246)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audi R8R

You see, this is where I think everyone is expecting one thing and Audi is going to surprise us with something else...

I have a funny feeling that it's NOT going to be a diesel... I reckon they've got something else up their sleeve.

A small evolution of the twin turbo V8 in the R8?!?!

mgrs · 6 Dec 2005, 14:21 (Ref:1478281)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

Any news on this? Engine configuration, open/closed, driver line up, team?

just called him, hes in the factory in germany, no sign of any R10 though . . .

gwyllion · 6 Dec 2005, 15:25 (Ref:1478309)

Quote:

Originally Posted by panoz.lmp1

The new car would be defintly an open car with a surprising engine ...

Some lucky guessing from my part:

TSI: Twin Charger (turbo + Roots compressor) FSI
TDI with 2 stage turbo charging (small + large turbo in serial)
Combined Combustion System (CCS): special diesel (with increased ignition delay) can be injected before Top Dead Centre

Ideas stolen from Volkswagen Fuel and Powertrain Strategy presentation

wishIcouldRace · 6 Dec 2005, 16:46 (Ref:1478358)

My guess = Variable Displacement, Constant Speed Turbo(s) plus strategic controlled time/volume controlled injection. Constant speed eliminates spool-up issues that trouble all turbo applications. My guess is that both Audi and Peugeot (latter being French) LMP1 cars will be using this and thus the reason that unlike the restriction on variable displacement constant speed turbos still being applied to gas engines, they have now been made legal, only for diesel, by ACO just before the start of the season. If I am right about these turbos, how long do you think that the rule change was made known to those specific constructors before the rest.

I could be wrong??????

EliseGT1 · 6 Dec 2005, 20:08 (Ref:1478474)

.....what if the car slightly has the looks of the 2003 Seat Cupra GT prototype? This was a very spectacular car, which was clearly designed with racing in mind.... I can possibly not believe they put all the effort in that car and subsequently do nothing with it. Look at the "under the hood" pictures. Nobody talked about that car in this thread, but couldn't there be some kind of link?

http://media.seat.com/en/view_manage...1236,1297,1301

tblincoe · 6 Dec 2005, 20:20 (Ref:1478482)

However the car looks when its unveiled on the 13th, it will be interesting to see how the car evolves from that time through the winter tests, through Sebring, and all the way until Le Mans... anyone remember how many iterations of the R8R there were?

jhansen · 6 Dec 2005, 20:28 (Ref:1478488)

Excellent point. Something I've thought about as well. I think the R8R tested in one form, raced at Sebring in another, and then at Le Mans in another form. Not to mention, Audi then showed up at Sebring 2000 with a completely new car. So yeah, things could change!

EliseGT1 · 7 Dec 2005, 06:27 (Ref:1478706)

The Audi RS6 to be announced in 2007 will have a 550 bhp V10 engine (whithout turbo's?). R10 as well....???

gwyllion · 7 Dec 2005, 07:05 (Ref:1478718)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliseGT1

The Audi RS6 to be announced in 2007 will have a 550 bhp V10 engine (whithout turbo's?). R10 as well....???

The S6 will have the same 5.2 V10 FSI as the S8, but with 420 bhp (instead of 450 bhp).

The engine of the RS6 is still unclear: high revving V10 or V10 biturbo.

Audi R8R · 7 Dec 2005, 09:35 (Ref:1478770)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliseGT1

.....what if the car slightly has the looks of the 2003 Seat Cupra GT prototype? This was a very spectacular car, which was clearly designed with racing in mind.... I can possibly not believe they put all the effort in that car and subsequently do nothing with it. Look at the "under the hood" pictures. Nobody talked about that car in this thread, but couldn't there be some kind of link?

http://media.seat.com/en/view_manage...1236,1297,1301

That car has been racing in the Spanish GT Championshipfor the last two years. Nothing new or radical there.

EliseGT1 · 8 Dec 2005, 09:19 (Ref:1479501)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwyllion

The S6 will have the same 5.2 V10 FSI as the S8, but with 420 bhp (instead of 450 bhp).

The engine of the RS6 is still unclear: high revving V10 or V10 biturbo.

I didn't make this RS6 5.5 litre engine up, just read it in a "to be announced" table in Dutch magazine AutoVisie.

EliseGT1 · 8 Dec 2005, 09:21 (Ref:1479502)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audi R8R

That car has been racing in the Spanish GT Championshipfor the last two years. Nothing new or radical there.

This is the proof of the fact that I NEVER watch Spanish GT. I really really didn't know that, sorry.

hindy · 8 Dec 2005, 09:38 (Ref:1479515)

The V10 that Audi are using in road cars (As in the S8) is the Lambo motors bored out for more power and torque.. hello raod test please!!

JH

Zandbak · 8 Dec 2005, 12:33 (Ref:1479654)

According to some rumours in Sweden we could expect a "Swedish" R10 at Le Mans. Drivers? Kenny Brack, Stefan Johansson and Mattias Ekström

Dauer 962 · 8 Dec 2005, 12:38 (Ref:1479658)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zandbak

According to some rumours in Sweden we could expect a "Swedish" R10 at Le Mans. Drivers? Kenny Brack, Stefan Johansson and Mattias Ekström

with IKEA livery ?

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